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    People say it’s a publicity stunt. Well so what. Greta knows if she goes, cameras and reporters will follow. It’s the same thing Lady Diana did when traveling to 3rd world nations…she knew that she alone wouldn’t make a difference, but the cameras and reporters that follow her would.

    Greta is doing what most of us only discuss…helping. and if she helps by keeping Isreal’s hypocrisy in the news, then she wins.

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      They one who says that are troll because it is not a Publicity stunt when you are going to the door steps of a fascist military organization that have no regards of any human life “including their own” and will not hesitate shooting you down or imprisoned you for unknown time.

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      People say it’s a publicity stunt.

      Shortly before the IDF bombs another Reuters photojournalist team, sure.

      and if she helps by keeping Isreal’s hypocrisy in the news, then she wins.

      If she really wanted to help, she’d be campaigning for Kamala Harris for President.

      That’s what I’m told Palestinians actually want.

  • SectoidLexi@lemmy.blahaj.zoneBanned from community
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    Ah shit here we go again. What’s ironic is that the Zionazis could get an easy PR win by letting them in to distribute aid but that would interfere with their long term extermination goals.

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      it would also interfere with their immediate goal of openly being cartoonishly evil.

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      Zionazis could get an easy PR win

      In liberal corners of the United States and Europe, maybe. But in Israel this would be viewed as a humiliation and a defeat.

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    I don’t get the criticism. They either get the food through or the press following her is going to film the Israeli navy blocking the food from entering the shore.

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    As someone living in Gaza, seeing this support from around the world truly gives us hope. Thank you

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          Haaa…there’s MANY boats mate. Not sure how you missed that. Dozens. What would you call a group of boats? I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t call it a boat of boats.

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            What would you call a group of boats?

            I’m being told by the IDF that a group of boats carrying food and medical aid is called a “publicity stunt”.

            I’m also being told it’s Hamas.

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            Yea original comment is funny. Definition of flotilla is a group of boats with a purpose. Not sure what else they would be calling it.

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      I guess it’s enough boats to make a floating villa? There’s something in there that I’m sure a 16th century language historian could figure out.

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    I don’t understand why they are publicizing this. Wouldn’t it be easier to ‘slip by’ under cover of night or whatever smuggler-esque strategies there are?

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      it’s a illegal blockage, if they tried to do it in secret it would 100% fail, it’s a humanitarian aid flotilla, not a military stealth ship.

      if anything the more public eyes on this the better.

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        That’s not true necessarily. Of course they are highlighting the cruelty of the blockade, but I’m sure they’d be very happy to get in and see what’s happening—as well as distribute some food

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          yet they wont and they know that they wont. why not deliver food to the Ukrainian front? because they might actually get there.

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              yet they send a flotilla of food they will be eating from into a blockade that will just take the food and send it on anyways. this is twitter theatre.

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            What in the world kind of thinking is this? Yeah, there’s a war going on and Russia is targeting civilian centers and are clearly the invading aggressor, but that is not on the same level as the full blown genocide happening in Gaza/West Bank. The fact that they could easily get into Ukraine and deliver food…means they don’t have to. What.

            There is an actual famine happening in Gaza. Starvation is being used as a weapon of war and attrition against the entire civilian population. There are only upsides to them trying this: either aid gets through and some people survive a little longer, or it doesn’t, and it proves to the entire world—that happens to be sitting on their hands over the genocide—that this is real and needs way more attention and pressure. What don’t you understand about that?

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              news flash: they wont be getting into Gaza at all. so they could help people, but choose not to. this is theatre.

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                It’s attempting to break an illegal and genocidal blockade of necessary survival items. The fact that the blockade exists means they should respect it?

                Look what they’ve already done: started thousands of conversations about it. It’s already mountains more than you or I have ever done to help the people of Gaza. Your opinion is ridiculous. But it also shows how necessary these actions are.

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    I have to say I don’t get this. They keep trying again and again but to what end. There’s no way this will change anything. The navy will intercept them, maybe kill some people in the process, dump the food and sent them back home. It all feels like a huge waste of manpower, resources and time.

    But by this point I’m wondering if Greta feels like she’s achieving much with the make noise strategy. I feel like that could work in a world that cares which ours increasingly is not that. She could attain more by going into politics for example. But dying in the sea on her way to a brick wall would be a huge loss that I can’t follow the logic of.

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      It makes it undeniably obvious that the point is genocide. It points out Israel’s blatant lies in a way that no breathing human can deny.

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        Again this is my opinion, everyone who cares about it already knows beyond a shadow of a doubt what this is, everyone else will continue to attempt confusion and deny it until theres no living resident in Gaza. I disagree that this particular action would change anything in terms of anyone’s perception on the lies.

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      It all feels like a huge waste of manpower, resources and time.

      Go ahead and explain to us a better way

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        I already did in broad terms. I would target politics, start a party or movement, grab power, votes and influence, take the helm and actually enact policy and put pressure where it hurts. Even this flotilla would make a lot more sense if it would be a marketing stunt to gain something else, but it really does seem to be limited to exposure which is not enough, everyone already knows the tragedy that is happening and yet those who can actually decide have said time and time again we can all get fucked.

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          There’s politics and establishment politics.

          What Greta is doing is a political act, it raises global awareness, which puts pressure on politicians to act or risk losing their offices to folks who will.

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            I guess the root issue with this is that they don’t act and if they lose their office to someone else those people also don’t act, at least not in the interest of the people. So we would need someone who actually acts instead of just talks and promises and I feel like Greta would be one of those people.

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              Don’t get me wrong I would love to see her run for office. I think it would need to be something with authority though to do as much good as she is now.

              Like Prime Minister or whatever they call the top position in her country.

              Even if she didn’t win, she could move the needle a lot.

              But that’s just one country, what she’s doing now moves the hearts and minds of folks globally.

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          I already did in broad terms. I would target politics, start a party or movement, grab power, votes and influence, take the helm and actually enact policy and put pressure where it hurts.

          These activists must be really stupid to put their life at risk when they can simply win elections, grab power and change policies…

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      1. Pawn are very important piece in chess, most of the time you lose one you lose the game.
      2. Pawn becomes any other piece when it reach its destination including a Queen.
      3. that is a lame comment that makes no sense.
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        Pawns are the first pieces to be sacrificed in a game of chess. How deep did you go to pull out this comment?

        Maybe the first to loose a pawn in game are statisticaly more prone to loosing. But that’s will be Tue reason of being the worse players not that the piece in itself is so important.

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    She was in Norway like a week ago. Woman’s busy.

    She would be better of protesting in Saudi Arabia or stopping some russian shadow fleet ships before supplying the Russian war machine.

    We got the Temu version of a radical protestant instead.