• JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 days ago

    I’ve seen what feels like a hundred posts complaining about people saying we need to support Gavin Newsome no matter what but I have yet to see someone saying we need to support Gavin Newsome no matter what.

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        10 days ago

        There’s a big difference between:

        “We need to support Gavin Newsom no matter what.”

        And

        “You don’t need to comment on every post about Newsom trolling Trump by talking shit about him. You can support a thing he’s doing without supporting him.

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          11 days ago

          For an eventual presidential run. This is what the DNC does. Spend three years finding the worse technically electable person they can, then pressure the left into voting for them because otherwise the republicans will destroy everything.

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      I personally had many people pile on me when I criticized him during the peak of his meming on Trump. But it does feel like the tide has turned against him a bit now.

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        They love the pointless, performative shit.

        Look at what Newsom is actually doing: presiding over a state where, for the vast majority of his constituents, it’s becoming unaffordable to live in while at the same time he is actively criminalizing homelessness.

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      12 days ago

      Feels kind of manufactured, honestly. I’m also trying to find evidence that he’s a transphobic piece of shit, but it seems like he’s pretty good on trans rights.

      I think this post is that “sowing division” thing we’ve heard so much about.

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        He went on Joe Rogan’s Charlie Kirk’s show and said he doesn’t think trans women should be in sports. Solidarity only goes one way for him.

        Edit: the deleted comment under this by Madzielle is the work of a coward. Post for real and stand by your (shitty) opinion. Don’t delete it immediately just so it hits my inbox and you suffer no community consequences from it.

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          He basically capitulated to the claims that “Democrats supporting trans rights have caused them to lose support”.

          That’s not even me excusing him. It’s pointing out that he’s spineless and caves under pressure, which might be even more important than whether he supports trans rights.

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          Rogan would be one thing since he’s a bit independently minded it was even worse it was Charlie Kirk. No reason to give him that audience.

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          11 days ago

          Apparently the climate, the constitution, and every child in Gaza need to die on the hill of trans people in sports.

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              Fuck Newsom. I never liked him - mostly because he is a mental lightweight. The point is we should not make trans people in sports a litmus test for all candidates.

              “Oh he isn’t on board with trans athletes? Piece of shit! Next!”

              There are in fact more important things to worry about.

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                The point is we should not make trans people in sports a litmus test for all candidates.

                Name a single political jurisdiction that banned trans kids from playing sports and was content with stopping there. Name one.

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                  This is a slippery slope fallacy. I say sports isn’t worth throwing every single other concern out the window, and you say ah but it’s not about sports, that’s just how it begins - if we don’t stand up for sports now, tomorrow they’ll be shoveling trans kids into crematoria.

                  I won’t engage that faulty line of reasoning.

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                    You don’t know what the slippery slope fallacy is.

                    The slippery slope is a fallacy when you’re just making hypothetical conjectures. I’m discussing the exact and specific numerous states have followed. I’m not speculating; I’m describing history.

                    Again, name ONE political jurisdiction that has stopped at sports. You can’t because you know it never stops there, and that calling this a “slippery slope fallacy” is just your abominable attempt to cover for genocide.

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      Exactly. I support Newsom because he fights and would even support even Republicans. We need everyone.

      Most Democrats don’t do anything beyond nice speeches and many don’t even bother with that.

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          He put proposition 50 this November as a response to Texas move to get additional 5 seats, and is advocating for other governor’s to do the same thing.

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      11 days ago

      This is the time for someone else to step up and be noticed by the crowd.