• moakley@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Feels kind of manufactured, honestly. I’m also trying to find evidence that he’s a transphobic piece of shit, but it seems like he’s pretty good on trans rights.

    I think this post is that “sowing division” thing we’ve heard so much about.

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      11 days ago

      He went on Joe Rogan’s Charlie Kirk’s show and said he doesn’t think trans women should be in sports. Solidarity only goes one way for him.

      Edit: the deleted comment under this by Madzielle is the work of a coward. Post for real and stand by your (shitty) opinion. Don’t delete it immediately just so it hits my inbox and you suffer no community consequences from it.

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        12 days ago

        He basically capitulated to the claims that “Democrats supporting trans rights have caused them to lose support”.

        That’s not even me excusing him. It’s pointing out that he’s spineless and caves under pressure, which might be even more important than whether he supports trans rights.

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        Rogan would be one thing since he’s a bit independently minded it was even worse it was Charlie Kirk. No reason to give him that audience.

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        12 days ago

        Apparently the climate, the constitution, and every child in Gaza need to die on the hill of trans people in sports.

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            11 days ago

            Fuck Newsom. I never liked him - mostly because he is a mental lightweight. The point is we should not make trans people in sports a litmus test for all candidates.

            “Oh he isn’t on board with trans athletes? Piece of shit! Next!”

            There are in fact more important things to worry about.

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              The point is we should not make trans people in sports a litmus test for all candidates.

              Name a single political jurisdiction that banned trans kids from playing sports and was content with stopping there. Name one.

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                10 days ago

                This is a slippery slope fallacy. I say sports isn’t worth throwing every single other concern out the window, and you say ah but it’s not about sports, that’s just how it begins - if we don’t stand up for sports now, tomorrow they’ll be shoveling trans kids into crematoria.

                I won’t engage that faulty line of reasoning.

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                  You don’t know what the slippery slope fallacy is.

                  The slippery slope is a fallacy when you’re just making hypothetical conjectures. I’m discussing the exact and specific numerous states have followed. I’m not speculating; I’m describing history.

                  Again, name ONE political jurisdiction that has stopped at sports. You can’t because you know it never stops there, and that calling this a “slippery slope fallacy” is just your abominable attempt to cover for genocide.

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                    Are you saying that every jurisdiction that has squabbled over trans people in sports has proceeded to genocide? This slope is more slippery than I thought!

                    You’ve tried twice now to get me to disprove a point you won’t even come right out and make. It won’t work. Make your point, if you can, that by failing to support trans people in sports, Gavin will shortly be shoveling trans kids into the ovens, like so many jurisdictions have before him.