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    I feel like the days of pearl clutching over profanity are on their way out. There is always a time and a place for it, but I grew up hearing “fuck” come out of my drunken relatives every other word. My parents didn’t say it, and they didn’t let me say it, but the only real weight the word ever had was that it was cool and exclusive to adults.

    One of the biggest culture shocks I had when moving from the US to Canada was how much more laid back everyone is up here over profanity in general. Almost everyone uses it, very few people (save for maybe the elderly) get uppity when they hear it, and I’ve heard it used freely on FM radio many times. I still think it’s trashy to fly a FUCK TRUDEAU flag or decal on your car for everyone to see, but nobodies up here clutching pearls. They just think you’re a dick.

    Not sure why it’s still such a big deal in many parts of the US.

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      What’s interesting is, traditionally in language, once forbidden words got ran out, there were still other bad words left to enter the lexicon. “Damn” used to be a genuine curse. My grandfather survived WWII and proudly told be people of all the bombs he dropped, he never dropped the F-bomb.

      What’s next? There’s no new forbidden words. Nothing left in the back of the store. Our ability to run through words outpaced our ability to make bad ones.

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      Words become more acceptable over time. In centuries past calling someone a devil or saying that they should go to hell would have been deeply offensive. Today these insults are so mild that even schoolchildren say them to each other. Even twenty years ago the word “fuck” was viewed with nearly as much taboo as racial slurs. Now, it’s a very common word that people will throw around in a casual context.

      Even the word n****r (means “black person”) and its non-hard-R variant are starting to lose their offensiveness. In African-American Vernacular it has taken on a variety of inoffensive meanings. It is now only offensive in certain contexts while fifty years ago it was pretty much offensive in all contents.

      At the same time, new words emerge and get labelled profane. For example, the word t****y (means “transgender”) would not have meant anything twenty years ago, and now it’s one of the most offensive words in the English dictionary. Similar story with the word f****t (means “homosexual”).

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    I will insult people for how they dress, specifically people who were clothes with Confederate flag shirts. I once saw someone with a confederate flag shirt that said “Try burning this one” my grandmother saw me staring and told me no. Yes I was working out the logistics of how to set someone on fire, I took the shirt as a challenge.

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      I mean it’s the bare minimum. Everywhere else I would be “don’t compliment yourself for not being a total asshole” but as a shitpost I like it

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    I was just upvoting while noticing the insane upvote count. Very good to see so many like-minded people. Also fuck those who downvoted.

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    My grandparents on my dad’s side used to make jokes that were funny when I was a kid, more concerning when I got older, and especially concerning as their dementia set in and they began outright stating people’s races in the jokes. In the years since their passing, it’s made me wonder what their beliefs on racism were, even though they raised me to never judge anyone by their race and that race will usually be a factor in how people are treated in the real world but should never be a factor in my personal interactions with anyone.

    But those jokes had been weighing kinda heavy on me in recent years. I know they had dementia, but was this possibly at the core of their beliefs?

    I recently heard a story, unprompted, from a family member who was present when my dad was in high school or college, in the '70s, and made an off-color joke . Apparently my dad said that a car with a poorly done paint job “looked like a Mexican car.” Without missing a beat, my grandmother punched my dad in the jaw with a right hook and yelled, “WE DO NOT MAKE DEROGATORY JOKES ABOUT PEOPLE FOR THEIR RACE!” My grandmother was always known for how passive, playful, and gentle she was, especially with her kids.

    Turns out grandma was not only adamant about race sensitivity, she was kinda a badass. And the jokes I thought were possibly racist were truly homophone humor about regional dialects and not about people’s nationality.

    • 🧟‍♂️ Cadaver@lemmy.world
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      You know, let us be honest for five minutes.

      Psychology has shown that we have biases against anyone who doesn’t look like us. It’s just survival 101 from not so ancient times.

      So maybe your parents had theses biases, unconsciently. Maybe even, they have been raised in a society which was racist, by definition. If they have lived anytime before the eighties, things were really rough (not that it’s not right now, but it was something else…)

      Now, let’s just say that at their core, they were racist. So what ? Is it really important ? They have shown you how to behave, what is right and what is not. They have worked to better themselves, so that is the only thing that should matter.

      Because, in the grand scheme of things, your parents would have told you from age two : do not shit in your pants, and they would have done the same. With dementia, maybe at some point they even forgot that one rule so… Being racist is excusable, because -and I’m sorry- they were not themselves in their final hours.

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        I appreciate and understand your perspective, but I want to clarify some context:

        This was my dad’s mom, so my grandparents. Had they been my parents and I’d known them at the age at which they raised me, then I’d immediately know how they raised their kids. But since this was my grandmother who raised my dad, it left me wondering what kind of parents my dad had. Was my dad a non-judgmental person in spite of his parents?

        And the answer was, “no.” He learned to cast aside prejudices from my grandmother’s sick right-cross. It was mostly that kind of revelation that I needed to feel my catharsis.

        (Added context: my dad is dead and I never heard that story from him. He died before my grandmother did, so I never got the opportunity to ask him about what her views on race were when he was a child.)

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    Many golden age pirates were actually kind of like that

    Big multiethnic crews. Lots of gayness, transgressive gender identities, liberatory politics. It was extremely punk, but with very very slightly better music and substantially worse booze.

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        Graeber really gets unto the mess of it all in ‘pirate enlightenment: the real libertalia’

        If you want something much less complicated and academic, i think the podcast ‘cool people who did cool stuff’ has a few episodes on it.

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            Theres some more crunchy stuff i remember but i can’t think of where i read it, sorry. The academic stuff all kind of blurs. Except for a few who could serioudly wrote like Graeber and Foucault.

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    Being a pirate means taking from assholes who do not deserve it. If you take from anyone you’re an asshole yourself.

    I pirate AAA games because they do not deserve my money, as the poor gameplay vallue doesn’t exceed 2 hours. I pay for indie games because they deliver, it’s worth my money.

    I used to be in the navy, went on deployment to Somalia several times to hunt pirates. I deeply regret it. Because althoug they have no choice and do what they do because of what us western countries did to them, they do horrible things to others who do not deserve it. But in the end we as a rich western society are the cause for their despair. So we are responsible for what they are forced to do to others. I ended up with PTSD.

    You can be a pirate with principles. Especially when mega corps and billionaires are forcing society into submission, forcing people to work to just to survive and/or force people to be someone they are not.

    Fight the oppression. Piracy isn’t a crime, it’s symptom of a crime. Also, these days you do not own the media you purchase. It’s not theft when you steal something which you cannot own it when you purchase it.

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    Unpopular opinion: profanity is massively overhyped and people that excessively swear tend to irk me. There are so many ways to passionately express emotion, at least in the English language, yet so many are fascinated with only a few. The word “fuck” in particular loses all gravitas after hearing it 150 times a day for most of my life. I’ve had to stop watching certain shows because swearing felt so excessively forced to perhaps come across as edgy, and it broke all immersion for me.

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      Yeah the only environment it seems to fit is the military which sort of makes sense for how often you get smoked long before you ever see combat or even just active duty.

      And even then most military people have a cleaned up citizen dictionary for whenever they’re not with their buddies.

      Anything outside of that just seems excessive and vulgar for no apparent gain or reason. Even funny and wildly profane comments online don’t use expletives as much as some people do IRL.

      There has to be wordplay and emphasis to make it justied (or funny like the gorilla warfare copypasta), otherwise it just comes of the same as ending every single sentence or phrase with “lol”.

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      That’s a popular opinion. I agree though, if you’re going to swear, make it count. Bonus points for creativity, you fucking festering anal fistula

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    Why wouldnt you call someone an illegal immigrant if thats what they are? Being a “human being” isnt a get out of jail free card. If you drink and drive, youre a drink driver. If you rape someone, youre a rapist. If you murder someone, youre a murderer. If you steal, youre a thief. You move countries, you are an immigrant. If you do it without falling the rules of the country you moved to, youre an illegal immigrant.

    Why the fuck are you people always over correcting???

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      Given the context he’s talking about judging people by their looks. You cannot tell just by looking at someone whether or not their immigration status is legal. You need more information than just their apparent ethnicity.

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        Dont know how you got that, chief. The context is “human being”, nothing else. Every time these insane fuckwits posts something unhinged, theres always people ready with the excuses. You can not like the laws, thats fine. But if you enter a country illegally, an illegal immigrant is what you are.

        If the guy wants to say that calling brown people illegal just because theyre brown, well, I think he all ready did. As that would full under the racial slur.