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    The funniest thing is that the superhero they have a problem with is Superman.

    If it were Batman, that would be different. Batman isn’t a pure-hearted hero, he’s a more complex character. If it had been someone in the X-Men, or pretty much any Avenger other than Captain America, there would be room for a discussion.

    But, Superman is such a good, kind-hearted hero that it’s basically impossible to be a good person and be anti-Superman.

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      Absolutely.

      I know people can call superman boring, but to me what makes him even more amazing is that he has enough power to basically dominate everyone… But he doesn’t, he always chooses to do the right thing and tries to give people a second chance.

      It’s part of the reason Zach Schneider’s Superman sucked balls, because they tried to make him some dark edge lord that literally kills in the first fucking movie.

      Supes is the last hero that remains as some sort of beacon of hope and fairness, which naturally goes against the fascist mindset.

      A red hatter cannot comprehend having power and not using it to subjugate or enforce your will. It simply does not compute in their lead infested brains.

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        I think it’s a challenge to make superman interesting because he’s both so powerful and so good. That’s why, when I read / watch DC stuff, I like it when he’s a side character, not the main character. I think Captain America is the Marvel universe’s equivalent of Superman in terms of personality / attitude. But, he doesn’t have anywhere near Superman’s power, which is why it’s easier to write interesting stories with him.

        You’re completely right that that’s the mindblowing part of Superman – that he has all this power, but he doesn’t use it to reshape the world. Instead, he saves people from dying, whenever he can. And, he stops people from hurting other people.

        I think a lot of the conservative mindset is that there are people who are supposed to be at the top, and people who are supposed to be at the bottom. If you’re at the top, it’s because you deserve to be there. If you deserve to be there, you have the right to impose your will on the people below you. Superman is undeniably at the top in terms of power, but he refuses to wield his power. That doesn’t make sense if your world view is that might is right.

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        Batman is a lunatic occasionally playing rich playboy to finance his crusade against crime, born from untreated trauma.

        And most of his villains are just as insane as him.

        Gotham is basically a vicious circle of maniacs driving each other further insane.

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        Peak human and “the greatest detective” of all time. Also with prep, basically unbeatable. Rich guy comes in with the gadgets and cave.

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      I was anti-superman for a long ass time. Currently, I’ve grown more found of the character but not because of some “woke” or some bullshit MAGA male ego.

      Superman is all powerful. Too powerful, IMO. When they finally killed Superman off with Doomsday, as I a kid…I rejoiced! Told my YMCA camp counselors it was a great day.

      Sadly, when they brought his ass back from the dead, like some DC Jesus. I was highly disappointed. Even though everyone else was so excited to see his return.

      I like the character more now and enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Just some childhood hate still stirs. Would love to see some Marvel characters go toe to toe with him on screen.

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      But, Superman is such a good, kind-hearted hero that it’s basically impossible to be a good person and be anti-Superman.

      Right, the main complaint is that he’s so perfect it’s boring.

      And also that he has a pretty Western/USA centric sense of morality, which you think Western chauvinists like conservatives would eat right up.

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        Personally i like stories where he strugless more with how yo use his powers without becoming a despot.

        Its so intresting tought experiment how much some one who is basically a god should intervine before it is too much.

        At what point enforcing law becomes tyranny.