• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    Jesus Christ he hasn’t even announced he’s running yet. Why are we already pretending these are the only two alternatives?

    We don’t need to choose a neoliberal over a fascist… we can push for someone better.

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      Do we need to start the purity tests already, though? I don’t like Newsom and would vote against him in most any primary but I will absolutely vote for him over Trump or any other current republican. I can’t name a single republican I’d vote for at this point because they’re all complicit.

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        Yes. People won’t vote against him if we don’t articulate our criticisms against him.

        He’s a bad governor who is widely disliked in California. This carnival show he’s putting on is his only claim to fame and it depends on democrats in other states not knowing anything else about him or his record.

        Like, I don’t understand the implications of what you’re saying here. That we can’t criticize any politician who’s not a fascist? How is that a reasonable strategy?

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          I’m not saying that we can’t criticize but does it need to start now? Can’t it wait until we see who the field of candidates are so we can avoid tarring the candidates before they even start debating? I am mainly worried that the democrats are going to rip themselves apart again before campaign season even starts.

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            I completely disagree. This is the best time to be brutally honest so that bad candidates don’t launch and it’s easier to have a united front once most voters start paying attention during the campaign.

            I’ve lived under Newsom (and to be clear, voted for him over republicans every time) so I don’t need to see him debate or anything to make up my mind about him. He blocked more progressive legislation in California than the republicans here did. He’s also a rich, corrupt slime ball who has nothing but disdain for ordinary people. He’s not a good candidate.

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        How about we start with a primary race? When was the last time the democrats ran a presidential primary that didn’t come across as a fait accompli? Maybe 2007?

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        Primaries haven’t even started yet for the fucking midterms. This is exactly the time for purity tests.

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      I’ve never tried to choose the neoliberal but I’ve never not had to vote for them.

      If it’s not Newsom then it’ll be someone else I don’t like.