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        Heavily regulated on the data it is trained on, respectful of copyright laws, with caps on electricity cost, and also explicitly banned for use in customer service, finances, infrastructure, engineering, research, medicine, legal practice, and sales. That also extends to programmers who work for those industries.

        Basically, anybody trying to turn a profit from such a shitty non-product should fuck off. I also reserve the right to tell AI Sloppers to fuck off in other contexts, because it has no use case.

        But, to be clear, I am referring to LLMs and Generative AI who create statistical models of language, and similar AI made to operate equipment after training on footage, not other learning algorithms used to make statistical models of things like which drug has an attachment point or which mice have cancer.

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    Let’s cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we’re too lazy to photoshop! What’s not to like? More fossil fueled plagiarized bullshit so I don’t have to think please!

    Edit: Looks like I struck a nerve with some people who are, similarly to “AI”, confidently incorrect about a few things. I’m not even saying LLM can’t be used for good, it has, but I am saying that it is being used for a lot of bad shit and it’s being powered by a lot of bad shit on top of that.

    Think about that before you start hyping “AI” and attacking anyone who criticizes it because there’s some valid criticisms that are very dangerous to ignore.

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      “AI” is not just LLMs or diffusion models, and that’s what I think OPs is about, like, do you also hate Stockfish? Or enemies in a videogame?

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        You’re correct in a technical sense but incorrect in a social sense. In 2025, “AI” in the common vernacular means LLMs. You can huff and puff about it, and about how there are plenty of non-LLM AIs out there. But you might as well complain that people mean silicon-based Turing-complete machines when they refer to a “computer,” even though technically a computer can mean many other things. You might as well be complaining about how a computer could refer to someone that does calculations by hand for a living. Or you could refer to something like Babbage’s difference engine as a computer. There are many things that can technically fall under the category of “computer.” But you know damn well what people are saying when they describe a computer. And hell, in common vernacular, a smart phone isn’t even a “computer,” even though it literally is just a computer. Words have both technical and vernacular meanings.

        In 2025, in the language real speak in the real world, “AI” is a synonym for “LLM.”

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          It’s a failure of our education systems that people don’t know what a computer is, something they interact with every day.

          While the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis might be bunk, I’m convinced that if you go up one level in language structure there is a version of it that is true. That is treating words as if they don’t need a consistent definition melts your brain. For the same reason that explaining a problem to someone else helps you solve it, doing the opposite and untethering your thoughts from self-consistant explanations stops you from explaining them even to yourself, and therefore harms your ability to think.

          I wonder if this plays some part in how ChatGPT use apparently makes people dumber, that it could be not only because they become accustomed to not having to think, but because they become conditioned to accept text that is essentially void of consistent meaning.

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        Also, some things are called AI that aren’t. People are freaking out as soon as the term is mentioned without checking if it’s actually some sort of model or if it’s just a basic algorithm with a buzzword tossed on.

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        “AI” in videogames is basically never powered by large models like LLMs or Stable Diffusion or others. The fact you compare them only demonstrates how fucking little you actually know about this topic you are BLINDLY defending.

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        So sorry for criticizing AI for very serious problems that will affect me in my lifetime along with everyone I care about. What a piece of shit I am, please forgive me! AI is totally great and has no problems at all!

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          That’s not what the post is about? How do you know I don’t agree with you? This post is about people, not AI.

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          AI only exacerbates an existing problem with tech; AI datacenters pollute and consume because datacenters pollute and consume

          a lot of things many people do online, including watching videos or playing online games, are super polluting. yet no one talks about this

          you don’t care about the environment, you care about AI

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            Wildly presumptive and incorrect statement about me, but you are right about data centers.

            On that note, it’s worth pointing out that some fediverse instances are powered by renewables! It’s small compared to the Internet at large, but it’s a start.

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        Yesterday I saw a guy attacked on fuck_ai because he wasn’t extreme enough with his anti ai attitude.

        I commented to him, only said I thought that his comment was valid and got promptly deleted.

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            [slopping intensifies]

            People hyping “AI” are the ones that seem like cultists to me. It’s not even artificial intelligence, they’re misusing the term to make money. They rebadged LLM.

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              There are extremist on both sides. But at least the anti-AI group has environmental responsibility on their side.

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                  Ahh yes, not the literal theft of billions of peoples’ work. Not prematurely replacing jobs with machines. Those are all totally cool things LLMs are doing!

                  … You and your type are fucking clowns.

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                I guess I should make some sort of clever comment about a mirror here but it looks like I’ve run out of shits to give. Good chat!

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                You must only be reading web forums like Lemmy/Reddit. I think society as a whole is very excited by the idea of AI.

                Companies everywhere have been racing to be the first to add AI to their products, for instance. Not just tech bro companies either. Everybody.

                Edit: so many downvotes and no comments. I see AI hype everywhere, it’s a fact. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, just that it isn’t limited to tech bros.

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                  You got me wondering, and it seems like opinion is mixed among US adults

                  Overall, we saw mixed emotions around the rise of AI. 39% of Americans feel positive about AI while 20% feel negative. The most commonly expressed emotion was curiosity, followed by interest and worry.

                  It seems to hold true internationally too

                  People are most likely to say they are concerned (32%), curious (30%), and hopeful (27%) about artificial intelligence. … 24% of respondents said AI will make our lives better. 41% of respondents think AI will make our lives both better and worse. Only 10% of respondents think AI will only make our lives worse

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                Me too. Especially here in Lemmy. Definitely way more people rage about it. Rarely I see people being obnoxious by promoting it.

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              I beg to differ. Anti ai is way bigger on Lemmy than pro. You can see this even by the likes.

              Second part is about semantics of ai. We use the term AI because that kind of stuck. Everybody uses the term. It makes no sense to every time rage about what it means specifically, especially since most people do fairly understand what it is.

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                Clearly they do not know what it is when they say, “LLMs and video game AI are the same thing!” No. No they aren’t. At all. In basically every case, they are wholly different.

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                  No idea what you are talking about. The largest majority cals LLMs artificial intelligence. Because lnguistically, LLM is simply a subtyp of AI.

                  In public discourse and marketing, “AI” has become a blanket term for anything that learns and writes like a human, and LLMs fit the bill. So as a linguistic shortcut, when LLMs got popular, people replaced that specific kind of AI with just “AI. By definition, an LLM is a kind of AI, a specialized system trained on massive text to generate language, making it a clear hyponym of AI. That relationship justifies calling LLMs simply AI.

                  There is also because of generic reference: It’s easier to say “I used AI” than to specify “I prompted a 175B‑parameter transformer model.”

                  I sorry dude, but these are jusy linguistic mechanism at play. You can shout and complain so you want, it’s AI. It’s AI. Get over it, find a different hill to die on.

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            I couldn’t give a fuck less if you want to amuse yourself with scuffed images of anime girls with three tits and lobster claws. Knock yourself out.

            But if you think people are going to sit politely while institutions inflict these bullshit techbro fidget spinners unto us at the cost of our humanity and the planet then you’ve lost the plot.

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          Is this the new sub tweeting? Whining in a shitpost sub about how you got modded for continuing to support a logical fallacy after the mod said knock it off?

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            It was not a logical fallacy to begin with and I only had one comment and it was only to the guy who was attacked, not to anyone else.

            What do you care so much where I talk about how obnoxious fuck_ai has become? It’s a stupid cult, that doesn’t want any dissenting opinions and people are attacked for not being extreme enough. A sewer.

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      Let’s cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we’re too lazy to photoshop!

      You’re kinda proving the point of post. That’s literally what everyone here thinks of when someone says Ai

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      Let’s cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we’re too lazy to photoshop!

      Decided to look into it, and a loose estimate (it’s hard to find data on the power usage of photoshop) is that 1 minute of photoshop average is about 1 gen image at 4k output.

      Which means depending on use case and experience, an AI spun up locally to make something quickly would use far less electricity

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          Without training, but once you’ve trained one model then that model can be used by millions.

          An equivalent comparison would be the resources used by millions learning Photoshop in order to use it in the first place.

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        Well my iPhone 14 Pro gets really hot really quickly and the battery is comparable to a countdown app when I load a totally local LLM

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      While you are correct that AI is a horrible source of greenhouse gas due to its insatiable need for power, I wouldn’t call the people using it the make pictures “too lazy to learn Photoshop”. Being able to draw is a talent not everyone has and it’s kind of amazing to be able to make a picture you see in your mind without having the innate talent to do so. That being said, the people who have the talent who’s art has been used to train these AI systems should be broadly compensated for their work being used in the AI models.

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    ITT: exactly what the tweet was about. (Edit: It was a tumblr post.)

    Y’all just saw “AI” and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.

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    I will stop freaking out when they will stop trying to shove it down my throat all the time

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    If I’m seeing the word “AI” outside of academic research or shitposting, it’s almost certainly coming from a Techbro or techbro simp.

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    Pretty sus how much pro-AI slop is suddenly on lemmy right as GPT5 is about to be launched.

    Be less fucking obvious, you dipshits.

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    It has been my experience that things go the other way around. Usually people read the text (or programming script), see that it’s nonsense and ask, “Is this fucking AI? Cause I really hope no one is actually this stupid.”

    And then they get annoyed that someone is cooking the planet using AI instead of their brain.

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      I agree, they should be more like me and use their brain to cook the planet

      edit: now that’s what I call hot-headed

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    Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS. If you’re using computer technology to scan bodies for possible early cancer symptoms, for example, then you should have a professional look over the computer’s results and you shouldn’t use the marketing terms that are used for churning out brainless media content.

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      Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS.

      I think those two ideas are completely unrelated. LLMs are indeed an application of AI, and whether someone assesses its output has nothing to do with what they call the tool. I mean, people can be selectively specific in the areas that matter, but it doesn’t mean they’re wrong or obtuse across the board.

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    i saw someone on masto mad about the new background removal thing added to kdenlive

    i despise llms and image models for quite a number of reasons but just aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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    I have no idea what point you’re trying to get across but I just got back from shopping for a laptop for my college kid and pretty much all of them had a slop button

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        I might consider that for myself, next time I need one, but the kid is not a techie. He needs something that just works, with anything he may encounter , for at least 4 years. Most damning of all he probably needs to be able to game, and is not interested in having to figure out extra steps

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      I’m really happy with my ASUS Zenbook 14 (16GB memory, 512GB SSD, Intel Core Ultra 7 255H), which I got for $700, in case you’re still looking for a recommendation. Absolutely worth it IMO, though I’m running Linux, so the Copilot key is mapped to the compose key.

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        Went with an Acer. Best keyboard, tiny screen borders for a fairly compact 16” screen, 32G, 2TB, 3.1 lb …. I forget which CPU, we looked at so many.

        The big question is battery life, and we decided to risk it. For a claimed 9.5 hours battery life when new, will it still get through a realistic full day of classes for the next four years. Hopefully

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      The comparison is bunk though.

      The awareness of systemic oppression is not equivalent to a technology that produces text and images of dubious provenance.

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        But conservatives reacting to the word “pronouns” isn’t at all about systemic oppression? It’s about the immediate brain off that follows to instantly rant about “woke” or whatever, even if e.g. someone mentioned pronouns in a grammar context. It’s a stupid reaction born from opposition to a perceived “woke mind virus” (or equivalent).

        Similarly, some people read “AI” and immediately think whatever follows is worthless garbage. Which, even ignoring that not everything labeled AI is always ML, is a stupid reaction born from opposition to the LLM (and general genAI) hype.

        Sure, the “woke mind virus” is pure delusion, and I, too, want to throw up from the genAI hype every time someone mentions “AI” or “ChatGPT”, but AI isn’t even well defined and even ML has plenty of useful applications.

        It’s the same anti-intellectual “I hate the things I associate with this word so anyone not hating on the word is stupid” while disregarding what the word actually means in the given context.

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          I think you’re assuming people are having a knee jerk, ignorant response, because you have come to a different conclusion than they have.

          My dislike of consumer AI is very well informed. I’ve built my own local models and used generative AI extensively for work (no choice). I was actually pretty excited for the technology before the corps started using it as their latest accelerationist cudgel in the class war.

          As it stands, I think it’s hard to justify using AI, even as a casual consumer. For many reasons that are already well documented.

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            It is a knee jerk reaction because it does not look at the context.

            You can be talking about AI in a medical protein folding context, and you will still have people call it “slop”.

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              That specific use case is often brought up as an example of “good AI use” even among people who are opposed to the commercial models, so even if it was an apt comparison, I don’t think your assertion holds much water.

              Further, aren’t you assuming my context if you think, for example, that I’m an ignorant hater because I’m hating on some gen AI web comic? Or nebulous defense of AI, like in the op?

              Is this exchange one of the data points you mentally tally when you think of contextless, knee jerk reactions to all uses of AI? Because in this case right here, you would clearly be wrong.

              I’m not against all ML/AI when applied in the right context.

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      Yes. Because one is posted as a joke, and one is an un-ironic “observation.” I’ll let you figure out which is which. Maybe go ask an AI if you have trouble figuring that one out.