Excuse me?
profoundly negrous
This motherfucker is so racist he invented a new term.
It’s 4chan speak, I’ve seen it before.
You need to hang out in better places.
It’s good to lurk and keep an eye on extremist spaces imho. Not good for the mental health, but helpful in intervening/deradicalizing teenagers following down those rabbit holes. Good to also prep counters and debunks to narratives before they take hold.
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While I can understand his syntax, I fail to understand the substance of that sentence.
Now I’m curious how wealth can be utilized in a manner that pertains to African-Americans. Funding sickle cell anemia research?
I think he is basically saying “I think that black people are bad. I also think that some billionaires are bad, but it’s #notallbillionaires . The innate badness that black people have and the bad billionaires have are the same, so I am going to call the bad billionaires black”. In other words, racist bullshit
N*gga rich is a term used by racists, and co-opted by rappers, to mean getting a small fortune and spending it on flashy ostentatious things.
Oh you mean “new-rich”?
TIL…
You know some csa shithead talked like that.
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A n*gger is a race neutral term nowadays
no. no it’s not. people know its origins and who it’s referring to. to deny this is a form of sealioning. fuck off with that
It essentially means someone that takes far more than they will ever contribute, and in that respect, he’s absolutely correct
attaching this meaning to it is a form of dog whistle to get people to associate these traits with Black people. you are doing the propaganda work of white supremacy right now.
supremaCISM
“White supremacy” is what they think is the case. “White supremacism” is what they practice by thinking it.
Sorry for pedantry but this is one of those things that drives me nuts, similar to “my grandpa is on Facebook with all his conspiracies”. NO. A conspiracy is real. A conspiracy THEORY is when a bunch of idiots think there’s a conspiracy.
Epstein cover up: Conspiracy - there’s a coordinated and documented effort to stop the information from being revealed to the public
Moon landing doubt: Conspiracy Theory - there’s no evidence of a coordinated suppression of information
Mine is the word entitlement vs false sense of entitlement.
Me: “You are entitled to your social security money.”
Other guy: “I’m not fucking entitled, that money is mine and I want it back.”
Lol
Dunno, I once got told that you can use the word if you’re black, LOL =\
And if I’d use it to address a bunch of friends whose ancestors weren’t slaves and who are not black, I think this wouldn’t be an insult. If there’s a black person nearby, I won’t risk it having a different effect though.
Using that word in the way you describe makes you racist and a white supremacist. There are many other words you can call your “friends.”
No it doesn’t. People have all kinds of perceptions of words. Get used to it, nobody is going to follow your whim.
It does. You can choose to use it, and I can call you a racist and white supremacist. All allowed. Natural consequences of being a racist and using racist terms is being hated by normal people and called out. Can’t handle that, maybe stop using and defending the word and use a different one, ya dumb racist coward.
Buddy, you’re not a normal person and nothing in this conversation says I’m a racist.
You’re an idiot.
I don’t know what racist town you’re from, but that is not reality no matter how much racists wish it was. As for a name for people who take more than anyone could ever deserve, we simply call them billionaires.
Woof, you realize that the episode of South Park you morons use to justify this “change in meaning” was satire, and was not meant to be a guide for how to use cognitive dissonance to change words’ meanings to your own liking.
Lmao this chode is really over here trying to ignore all of the cultural context and redefine the n-word, to be able to use it without getting punched in the mouth.
(I read the tweet)
Mother of God…
(I read his Wikipedia page)
Oh, this is actually mild by his standards, my goodness…
I highly recommend the Behind the Bastards episode on him
I… what does that even mean?
He is a racial narcissist (and racial fascist) who has narcissistic delusions about race that are his projections of his own insecurity. He gets narcissistic supply from people responding to his delusions as if they are real. Which is why narcissists crave proximity and control so much and are fascists, because their biggest goal in life is to cater and caretake their delusions, not to actually think or do things or be progressive. It’s about the appearance of those things because it was always about narcissistic supply in the first place.
Most white men who are racial narcissists believe in:
- physical narcissism, which they believe black men are superior to them due to eugenics from chattel slavery, including a belief that they are stronger, their dicks are better and they are better at sex (this is a REALLY big deal to them, more than you would realize). This is also why white supremacists wanted to EAT and DID EAT black slaves. It’s also why they have to push narratives that black people are ugly, phrenology, etc. It’s why they are so physically cruel to them - they overabuse them because they are physically insecure.
- intellectual narcissism, which they believe they are superior to black people because of chattel slavery/owning them (aka sadistic and psychopathic abuse, not intellect) and the various white supremacy lies. This is why they don’t like DEI. Again, remember this is projection- it’s their own deepest insecurities they vomit out constantly through delusions.
Then these delusions can be applied to others not even in that group, because it was never based on reality to begin with. That’s why he’s calling white people the n word, he simply wants supply and it doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is rational.
Tldr; Curtis Yarvin believes his own dick is small, he is bad in bed, he is weak, and he is stupid and a bad rich person who made his money like all very rich people - via slavery and theft.
Fascinating. I never understood why the cuckolding fetish (fixation? obsession?) came with such a strong overlap with, I guess, race play? Feels like a charitable way to put it.
I didn’t believe it at first, but any quick web search will show that cuckolding largely is about the races of the people involved.
Which makes a lot more sense if seen through the framework you just described.
There’s also overlap with power narcissism (“might makes right”, nearly always ties in to physical narcissism and intellectual narcissism), money narcissism (classism), gender narcissism (misogyny), and savior narcissism (the stuff you see in charities and churches, evangelicalism).
And more ofc. There’s no limit to delusions someone can have.
All of that overlaps because there is intersectionality of narcissitic abusers, who then look for victims who safisfy that. We focus a lot of intersectionality of victims and not their abusers. But it’s why Ted Bundy picked young white attractive college girls with long straight dark hair to attack - all of those aspects represent his own narcissistic delusions, they are not the fault or problem of the victim, but of the abuser projecting onto the victim. They look for perfect dolls or teddy bears to project onto. Ted Bundy was otherwise perfectly safe to Anne Rice and most people he encountered because she wasn’t someone he could fully project onto - his narcissistic delusion enforcement wasn’t triggered by her.
So for eg it isn’t so much that Native American women are more likely to be murdered because they are Native women, but that there’s a widespread narcissistic belief set that murdering Native American women is not a concern, so much so that police and media and much of the public ignore it or actively aid it. And now we see this issue magnifying with the deportations - where are all the women? Latinos are just Native Americans who were colonized by Spanish speakers, after all.
But when we focus on abusers instead of the abused, the abusers realize they will get cut off from supply and they have a huge pushback for control.
And yeah it all ties into sexual stuff too
Never really thought of narcissisms in such a plural and mundane way. Is this a school of abnormal psychology or something?
Interesting lens to look through. I’ve always been a sucker for this kind of transactional analysis.
There is something called “collective narcissism,” and a lot of this info is in various studies and works. Here’s one study about gender narcissism: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-020-01193-3
Sure, yeah, but none of that explains what billionaires being “negrous” means? Like something something connect them with the same negative attributes that they keep going on about?
Can white billionaires be “negrous”?
Read again:
Then these delusions can be applied to others not even in that group, because it was never based on reality to begin with. That’s why he’s calling white people the n word, he simply wants supply and it doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is rational.
Okay yeah my bad for trying to look for rationality in racism, true enough.
Where I’m lost is does this mean he thinks billionaires are too overly physically prowessed, or because they are insufficiently intellectual?
It is simply manipulation and bad faith arguments to control people. He doesn’t actually think anything either way about them, he is frustrated and this is the narrative he uses to express frustration and manipulation
ok I’m going to TRY to explain his thinking but I’m likely going to come off as racist trying to explain it.
What he’s saying is there are those who earned their wealth via hard work and all that other bullshit and others that just got it handed to them or give off the impression that they’re insanely wealthy when “they’re not”.
this is what he likely means when he says “n-word rich”. Because this morons impression of wealth in the Black community is via watching music videos and watching reality TV. He’s watched way too many youtube vids about such and such Black music artist or athlete who wears all this “bling” has all these cars and a huge mansion with nothing in it but meanwhile said person is broke. that’s what he means by “n-word rich”.
he could have just said “The problem is the majority of billionaires aren’t actually billionaires. They just think they are.”
Some people like to rebrand the n-word as a non-racial term. Pretending that it is not tied to skin color or racism but behavior.
How is it that the weirdest dudes keep ending up with so much power and influence. Like, this is just bigoted shit obviously, but it’s weird bigoted shit. What is it about people that makes them look at a weirdo freak (derogatory) like this and think “this is a man I need to have direct the entirety of my belief system going forward”?
Success is awarded to the confident. You can be an absolute weird idiot and still, in the right circumstances, get massive success just because people assume there’s a reason you seem so confident, and who are they to second guess that confidence?
That’s literally the only reason Trump is where he is. He’s not actually good at anything.
Social media has accelerated this. No one would know who this guy was in the 90s, for example.
I have zero idea who he is. Or Thiel for that matter …
Well, they are actively trying to enslave and kill you, so maybe learn
I think a part of it is you have to be weird to want to chase power. Normal people aren’t thinking 24/7 about how they can leap frog their way into power
The other part is that normal people as party of a well functioning society need to actively maintain systems that keep fuckwits from accumulation to much power, and we haven’t been doing that.
Then they decide to get makeovers or permanent eyeliner like that’s supposed to make up for all the other weird shit?
What the…?
Start looking up techno feudalism
Him and thiel …they want to end the United States and break it into company run states with no rules
Yarvin and Thiel scare me…
Here’s some of Yarvin’s writings, if you want to feel like disappearing into the woods, getting on a rocket, and blasting off as far, far away from this planet as possible:
precedent should be rolled back to 1900 at the latest, and probably more like 1800. The democratic era has corrupted everything, law being no exception.
One way to see internal security in a Patchwork realm is as a compromise between two sorts of Orwellianism. In the sense that the realm is (effectively) omniscient and omnipotent, it would fit most peoples’ definition of “Orwellian.”
Residents of a Patchwork realm have no security or privacy against the realm.
All residents, even temporary visitors, carry an ID card with RFID response. All are genotyped and iris-scanned. Public places and transportation systems track everyone. Security cameras are ubiquitous. Every car knows where it is and who is sitting in it, and tells the authorities both. Residents cannot use this data to snoop into each others’ lives, but Friscorp can use it to monitor society at an almost arbitrarily detailed level.
There is one problem, though, which is … the problem of adults who are not productive members of society. In our little Newspeak we call them wards of the realm.
As Delegate of San Francisco, what should you do with these people? I think the answer is clear: alternative energy. Since wards are liabilities, there is no business case for retaining them in their present, ambulatory form. Therefore, the most profitable disposition for this dubious form of capital is to convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.
Okay, just kidding. This is the sort of naive Randian thinking which appeals instantly to a geek like me, but of course has nothing to do with real life. The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.
However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide.
The best humane alternative to genocide I can think of is not to liquidate the wards—either metaphorically or literally—but to virtualize them. A virtualized human is in permanent solitary confinement, waxed like a bee larva into a cell which is sealed except for emergencies. This would drive him insane, except that the cell contains an immersive virtual-reality interface which allows him to experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.6
The virtual worlds of today are already exciting enough to distract many away from their real lives. They will only get better. Nor is productive employment precluded in this scenario—for example, wards can perform manual labor through telepresence. As members of society, however, they might as well not exist. And because cells are sealed and need no guards, virtualization should be much cheaper than present-day imprisonment.
Many other regions of the earth, however, contain large numbers of human beings whose existence may well prove an unequivocal liability to the owners of any ground on which they would reside. If so, they can be virtualized, creating giant human Wachowski honeycombs of former bezonians, whose shantytowns can be cleared and redeveloped as villas for retired oil-company executives.
Teehee just kidding about my proposal to turn humans into petroleum… unless?
What an unfortunate collection of words to read on a Friday like today
These dumb motherfuckers really think they are above it all and invincible. My only consolation is that I know they view having to “share” their existence with all us plebs as a literal and continual hell. May they all rot and fester in it.
If these are the people in power’s friends than they aren’t far from this train of thought. People who think so lowly of others do not deserve this kind of power. People who think this lowly of others and would actually try to enact it should probably be the subject of mass riots. Reading that shit made my blood boil. These are the powerful and affluent.
At some point I loved the kind of jokes based in his ideologies, about bioreactors and such.
And - the emotion behind this kind of thought is very important. It’s not worse for anarchist and humanist thought than it is for the fascist kind.
Thought experiments are necessary. In the “good old times” such thought experiments as quoted here were normal for many sci-fi series.
The technologies (many of them) to make this are here. What would you do to find the least inhuman way they’ll be used? Not doing anything is not an option - someone will use them to their ideology’s advantage.
My idea at some point was that if we can’t prevent surveillance and miniaturization and automation to the degree it’s a failed endeavor to try to preserve privacy and security against those, then we should at least create a panopticon society, so that those Yarvin’s “delegates” were as visible for the rest of us as the rest of us for them. Suppose the “nothing to hide” norm is here - and we are already losing against it, just silently. What can we do to avoid such a hellish and degenerate end of history as he describes?
It’s a bit like with nukes, you can’t (well, 50 years ago you couldn’t) reasonably well protect against another’s nuke, but you can balance it with your own.
Hahaha, what the fuck does that even mean??? What a clown
From Meriam-Webster’s entry on the word
Did the definition of n----r change?
There is a widespread belief that the original meaning of n----r, as defined in dictionaries, was “an ignorant person,” and a related belief that current dictionary definitions describing its use as a hateful, racist epithet are a recent change. We do not know the source of those beliefs, but they are not accurate. The word was first included in a Merriam-Webster dictionary in 1864, at which time it was defined as a synonym of Negro, with a note indicating that it was used “in derision or depreciation.” There has never been a definition like “an ignorant person” for this word in any subsequent dictionary published by this company. Nor do we know of such a definition in any earlier dictionary.
There’s been an attempt among white racists over the years to try and redeem the hard-r N-word. They’ll say that it originally meant just an ignorant or foolish person in general, not only black people specifically. But this is a historical fiction. It’s always been used as a slur against black people. It was originally a complete synonym for “negro.” If you asked Yarvin, and he didn’t just admit outright to being a flaming racist, he would likely justify it by making a claim like this. He would claim that he’s saying these billionaires are just corrupt and foolish. He would say that it’s OK to use the word, as he’s not referring to black people, just ignorant and lazy people in general. He would say he’s using the non-racist definition of the n-word. But again, this is a historical fiction.
Sometimes racists will cite words like “niggardly”, meaning cheap or stingy, as an example of how the n-word could be used in ways not applying just to black people. Niggardly is a word that sounds like the n-word but actually does have a non-racist history. They’ll try to link niggardly to the hard-r n-word. But what they ignore is that the word niggardly has a completely different etymological root. Niggardly shares roots with words like niggling, tracing back to the 13th century nig, meaning simply a stingy person. The n-word however, as Meriam-Webster notes, derives directly from the Spanish negro.. Racists will connect the n-word to words like niggardly, niggling, etc., citing their real history as non-racist words, and say that the n-word can also be used non-offensively because of this. But there is no common etymological root between the hard-r n-word and similar sounding words that do actually have a non-racist history.
Of course, it’s all ultimately a moot point. In polite society today, most people understandably avoid using any word that remotely sounds like the n-word. See controversies around the word niggardly. And really, there’s little reason to use words like niggardly, even if one could argue that they’re technically not racist. They just sound way too similar, and there’s plenty of other perfectly valid words to use in their place. And ultimately, someone could just as easily be hurt or offended by words that sound similar to the n-word even if they’re technically not directly related. The words are best avoided, as they just end up hurting people for no good reason, even if some etymologist might argue they’re not directly related.
It’s a racist asshole thing. You wouldn’t understand.
This dude sucks so much. And everything I’ve ever read about him makes him seem like the most annoying kind in philosophy class who thinks he’s smart but is a dumbass. And also very racist.
I keep running into this problem where I hear about this conservative intellectual and I go to read their work. I know I’m not going to agree with them, but let me find the flaw or where our values diverge in their argument.
When I gloss it, I’ll assume the problem is me when i fail to find that spot. So I do a closer, more serious reading of their work. Still don’t see it. Again. Fail. Again. Fail. Again.fsil.failfsilfisjl.
These “intellectuals” are people who haven’t read widely, haven’t practice developing ideas, and don’t know how to write a structured argument.These fuckers were “STEM” smart from a young age, probably without much effort, got accolades from everyone about how smart they were, and thought the liberal arts were a joke. And honestly, until advanced high school classes, they often are. Because before that age, your brain lacks the skills and data to do it at all.
Their combined rhetorical strength lies in misleading statements, provocations, and hiding their true intent behind mealy mouth pseudo intellectualism. At least Yarvin will come out and say he wants feudalism. Fuck Jordan Peterson in particular. I am worse off for ever having tried to comprehend his thinking. I’m not sure who else sucks in this day and age, but I include Theil, bronze age pervert, and the CEO of Palintar. All, I believe, have advanced degrees in the liberal arts.
This isn’t to say that there aren’t conservatives worth reading and disagreeing with, but the surface is polluted.
I genuinely don’t understand how Peterson has a PhD. I’ve listened to his lectures and they are just pointless garbage. He squints at Jung, comes up with this manicheanism where men = order women = disorder and just verbal diarrheas from there.
I’ve only had a little formal education in psychology, but enough that people have paid me to teach it, and I don’t understand how anyone in the field could be impressed.
Jorge Hirsch, the creator of the h-index asserts that a “successful scientist” will have an h-index of 20 after 20 years; an “outstanding scientist” will have an index of 40 after 20 years; and a “truly unique individual” will have an index of 60 after 20 years or 90 after 30 years. Jordan Peterson has an h-index of 57.
His academic work had been cited well over 10,000 times before he became a publicly-known figure in 2016.
He obviously isn’t a quack in the field of psychology, by any objective measure.
Yes exactly, there is more nuance to a person than just right and wrong
Slept his way though college?
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Maybe you’ll find my take on it interesting: https://lemmy.world/post/33807544/18577415
At what point do we start tagging him with “racist sympathizer Peter Thiel”?
En masse, as soon as we can.
I thought he meant naggers.
There is no mask when you’re already ‘Peter Thiel’s bestie’
This man needs to be hanged for treason.
So does Peter Theil, Zuck, and Elon.
They need to be asset forfeitured entirely, even of clothes, and anyone who helps them, even by giving them water, should be asset forfeitured too. Let them wander outside naked, drinking from puddles and scrounging for food (not through trash though, that’s illegal, not allowed just like they don’t allow it for poor people who are starving today). Have guards around them to prevent anyone from giving them anything. They don’t like people and society, then they can live without it.
Yarvin is a traitor to humanity.
