• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Oh yes! Anything but immigration!

    But seriously, I feel like this is the broad sentiment of Japanese and the non-Japanese alike. Anti- immigration right applaud Japan for “keeping their country theirs” (as if ethnic Japanese aren’t the ones who came later and displaced the local Ainus already living there), and not going on supposed national suicide, unlike the West. Not having enough babies is tantamount to suicide anyway. The narrative then becomes: either allow immigration and go on national and cultural suicide; or don’t allow immigration and not have enough babies, which is still considered national suicide. Either way is committing national suicide.

    I am not naive to think that immigration has no baggage; but at the same time, if countries want to increase birth rate, then increase the wages and standard of living for young people and families to encourage more people to marry and raise families. However, the elites aren’t going to do the former because they don’t want to disappoint their shareholders. If they don’t want to do that, then allow more immigration, which they also don’t want to do.

    • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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      Orrrr (and this applies to most western countries in the near future too) they could maybe kinda consider not creating conditions in which its fucking impossible to have kids?

      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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        For a lot of people, delaying to settle down and have family is a choice (like for myself), but you are right that conditions are being created to dis-incentivise raising a family.

        I think South Korea could provide a model to encourage more birth rate. They created a new administrative capital city where it is more family oriented. The result? Explosion in birth rate. In the following years, other places replicated the model and South Korea as a whole experienced more birth this year for the first time in nine years.

      • Hellahunter@lemmy.world
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        As someone in a western country now inconceivable! Heck we still have a good portion of Americans who complain about the living standards but will stay home in November or actively vote for things like deporting immigrants like that magically fixes the over arching problem

        56 is the median age for home buyers in 2025 and it’s been this way for a very long time.

        We’re as doomed as Japan honestly we just happen to encourage immigration lol. So I agree with you.

    • kebab@endlesstalk.orgOP
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      Yeah, plus consider how many people already learn Japanese as it’s considered to be a sexy language in many countries

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      I completely sympathize with the Japanese view about immigration. Their society has a lot going for it which is held up by the culture. And diversity would lead to a tragedy of the commons in many cases, like keeping public spaces clean.

      However, sacrificing your elders is not exactly Japan’s culture either.

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    Dr Narita has now told The New York Times his comments were “taken out of context”, and the paper reported that he added “they related to demands for older people in leadership positions to make way for the younger generation”.

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      “I didn’t mean ‘they should kill themselves’, I merely stated that the old fucks should gtfo and cease to exist. By killing themselves. Media takes things so far out of context…”

  • Afflictedlife@lemmy.ml
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    Aren’t we all committing mass suicide already tho? I mean, have you looked at earth lately? I mean I want to kill myself as much as the next person, maybe more, but if we are ranking demographics that should go first, my vote is for the rich not just the elderly

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        Yes you are right. I think there is a bell curve of murder culpability that starts at jeff bezo’s wedding and ends at children starving to death. No that’s wrong bell curves measure the mean and that would just be the working class. Idk what I’m trying to describe. Jeff bezos should volunteer to lead the first human expedition to set foot on the sun. There makes sense now

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        You’re welcome, I was surprised to see I’d written it. Could use polish, but you can never go home again I suppose

  • SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works
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    The article is from 2023 and the source is a anti abortion site. The big red flag for me was the tweet from Pierre Pollievre saying how Conservatives are there to help people.

    From what I’ve seen when Japanese people saw the footage and context of the conversation they do believe it was more about older generation moving on.

    Dr Narita has now told The New York Times his comments were “taken out of context”, and the paper reported that he added “they related to demands for older people in leadership positions to make way for the younger generation”.

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    I do wish there was a way to check out early without endangering your insurance, though.

  • Nora (She/Her)@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I was kinda hoping I’d read the article and it would be a modern day “a modest proposal” but it doesn’t seem to be and now I’m sad.

  • whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    And he’s not even a professor of medicine or pathology, this talking authoritatively about things outside your field is really getting out of hand /s

  • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world
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    I don’t speak Japanese, but if you follow the link to the video it starts about 18 minutes into the 20 minutes video. The professor says something and then everyone laughs.