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Pretty sure this was reported on before the 2016 election and nobody gave a shit.
All his voters wanted to be at the party. When the “grab them by the pussy” tape was revealed, his voters donned “Trump can grab me by the pussy” t-shirts.
Rape culture is the default in USA.
I can’t get over that scene in that shitty transformers movie where the adult dates someone that is underaged, and he carries this snippet around where in some state under some circumstances you are allowed to hace sex with someone that is underaged. There was no point of that. She could’ve just been 18. The guy could’ve just been 17.
No wonder why he is deflecting so hard. He has walked back so much stuff other than harming people and ruining economy.
…downvoters ok with fucking kids?..
Maybe due to how they where not invited?
All of this news coming out now show you just how terrible democrats are at being a real opposition party. All of this was known and it never came to the attention of the media.
Yeah this isn’t exactly true. I’m pretty sure this was reported on before 2016, and people just didn’t care then.
But yes, Democrats are awful at messaging and drop the ball at every opportunity.
people just didn’t care then.
Which “people”? I thought/think it’s fucked up and I wish it was a bigger issue. It’s literally media/hegemony that chooses which tales to hype or bury.
Enough people to elect him twice.
It shows there are more Democrats on the list than Bill Clinton.
Who cares, reveal them all.
The billionaire media moguls like the Murdochs, Bezos and Musk don’t care for the idea of removing Jerome Powell from chair of the fed and they already got their big bill and Vance. Donald is used up and they can keep this from going away until it gives Donny a stroke from the constant stress.
To be fair, this was all information that was published before. Just like now, it changes absolutely nothing for his supporters.
Not to say that the dems aren’t terrible at messaging. But this seems to be more of a case of Trump having so many scandals that people forgot the details of this one. Saw someone post the other day that they went to Epsteins wikipedia page and had completely forgotten large swathes of it. Its just too much, too fucked up, for people to hold on to it.
And the worst part is, none of it is hidden. The video from the 90s (maybe early aughts) that had him speaking about his good friend ‘who, you know, likes them a little on the young side,’ was from Inside Edition (iirc). Dude casually admitted his friend was a pedo and it gets published as a puff piece.
None of this is new, none of this is unknown, its just unbearably fucked up.
Not as unique as you might think. This might be an elite class issue. A lot of people knew about Harvey Weinstein before he got metooed.
And it makes those folks just as culpable. Knowing someone is actively committing that sort of crime and doing nothing is nearly as bad as doing it.
What is someone supposed to do exactly? Epstein was one of the most powerful and well connected individuals when he was alive. Let’s say you saw an employee who looked young—you go to the police, you tell them your suspicions…did you get her ID? Do you think Epstein won’t sue you until you’re broke? Do you think there will be justice when he can call up politicians and get things buried?
I’m not suggesting that everyone should keep their mouth shut all the time, it is just that he was a huge dragon that could not be attacked unless you were a particularly qualified hero. Who knows how many people tried to blow the whistle and ended up dead or discredited and in poverty. It is easy enough to say “they should have done something”, but succeeding is a whole different ballgame.
If you were deep enough to actually know things that you could prove, you were very likely the kind of person who was also guilty. That is part of why the plan worked for so long.
Not to say that the dems aren’t terrible at messaging. But this seems to be more of a case of Trump having so many scandals that people forgot the details of this one.
This isn’t an exclusively Trump scandal. Epstein has his hooks in dozens - if not hundreds - of people. Billionaires like Bill Gates and politicians like Bill Clinton and royals like Andrew Edwards, Prince of York This is at least as big as the Jack Abramoff scandal from the Bush Jr era, a scandal that DeLay inadvertently engineered as exclusively Republican through his K-Street project.
It isn’t a simple messaging problem. It goes to the foundations of fundraising, candidate selection, and bureaucratic organization. Far too many people are dirty within the upper ranks of both parties.
Just like now, it changes absolutely nothing for his supporters.
I’m sure a sizeable portion of them think it makes him a real stud.
They did. Just as the media reported on all Trumps lies, the problem is that his voters couldn’t give a shit about any of it.
Just as
thesome media reported on all Trumps lies
A lot of it was out. The Republicans refused to believe it until now.
Just like liberals refuse to believe Democrats are involved too, and that’s the real reason they’ve ignored it the whole time.
From top to bottom, from Bill Clinton to Alan Dershowitz, the Democrats are not your friends.
Just like liberals refuse to believe Democrats are involved too
I have not encountered a single person that believes this. Everyone seems to want them to bring justice to all of them, regardless of party affiliation.
I see what you’re doing, by the way. Might work on reddit, but people here see through it.
Also, LOL at acting like Alan Dershowitz isn’t a Trump creature, and should somehow be lumped in with the Democrats… Sorry bud, but that hasn’t been true for nearly 30 years.
All you’re concerned with is benefiting repubs.
How do you get that from what I said?
They are both child raping cults, I’m unwilling to defend Democrats on the Epstein client list, that makes me pro republicans?
Think before you speak.
Comrade, I don’t need to further explain that your whataboutism has a goal. It’s beyond obvious.
It’s not whataboutism, I have never defended Republicans. It’s good for you to see that both sides are bad.
I know, you shit on Democrats and only Democrats and everyone knows why.
I think it’s more a testament to how much the average american ignores, I don’t think anything new has really been released regarding Epstein and Trump. Mostly rehashing similar acqusations that have been floating around for years.
I mean there is sworn testimony of him raping an ex-wife https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-exwife-claim-he-raped-her-resurfaces-in-new-documentary-a6836151.html but that never got any traction.
Trump is not the only wealthy person involved. The people that own both parties don’t want themselves and their friends implicated. Bill Clinton, Bill Gates etc
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The real criminals here are…Obama, Hillary Biden, and Adam Schiff, though! Something something argle bargle “coup” ten years ago! Why won’t the liberals see that!!!
Hillary’s husband is on the flight logs, we dont need to play team sports when it comes to child rapists.
Where did they mention Bill Clinton in their comment?
They purposely didn’t because it would completely undermine their point.
The real criminals here are…Obama, Hillary Biden, and Adam Schiff, though!
Is now a bad time to point out that Gislaine was invited to Chelsea’s wedding? Hell, Epstein had a long ongoing relationship with Bill Clinton. To say the Clintons are culpable is an understatement.
Meanwhile, Obama and Biden are - at a bare minimum - guilty of chronic inaction. Trump’s been engaged in money laundering for the various east coast mafias and eastern human trafficking gangs for decades and gone virtually untouched.
You can squeeze your eyes and pretend Obama - a man notorious for not prosecuting wealthy crooks - isn’t to blame. But Biden? Criminal negligence boarding on treason.
Adam Schiff is, similarly, deliberately blind to the role Silicon Valley has played in a functional coup of the California and US governments. Bare minimum, he is complicit through inaction.
Am I taking crazy pills or did everyone else miss that this was supposed to be Trump words? This is the exact thing he would say, and has said to try and distract from himself.
I mean. It’s all of them. The entire reason this is being suppressed is because it’s touches all of our ruling class. Trump is the only one dumb enough to think he could get away with using it to his advantage without consequences. And, honestly, he probably won’t see consequences anyway. So, maybe he’s actually the smart one. At least in terms of fooling American idiots and getting elected.
He’s right. He doesn’t need them now. So he’s doubling down on those that will follow him literally anywhere. And those are the people he’ll call on for another January 6th.
Let’s not pretend Bill Clinton wasn’t Epstein’s buddy too. The DNC is just as disgusting, and until liberals realize they’re actually just neo-liberals, nothing change.
Your downvotes won’t take Bill Clinton off the Epstein client list, you’re denying it exactly like Magats deny Trump’s.
You’re not getting downvoted because people are denying Clinton is probably on the list; you’re getting downvoted for saying anyone is defending it.
Get the list, investigate every single person on it, punish anything we can prove. As the justice system is supposed to work.
I don’t know a single liberal that doesn’t want Clinton to get arrested if he’s on the list.
How about all the liberals in Congress?
Nobody here is defending Bill, and he’s not the POTUS. Your whataboutism is gross.
I mean the comment they replied to is literally downplaying the involvement of other pedophiles just as involved as Trump was. It doesn’t matter if it’s using sarcasm to do it or not. That’s the intention.
The entire point people should get out of this is that defending rich pedophiles (much like defending Israel) is a bipartisan issue that both parties will always agree on. Do they spin it differently. Sure. But come the fuck on.
The person doing “whataboutism” is the person that made the initial sarcastic comment. Literally bringing up other sex pests for the exact same reason their comment is making fun of. To compare the sex pests between parties and downplay their involvement by comparison.
You can’t say “whataboutism” when the literal comment your replying to was responding to and criticizing a “whataboutism” in the first place.
Learn context clues. You’re ranting about something that wasn’t even an issue.
The original comment was in the voice of Trump. It’s the type of thing he would say to distract from people looking into him. It was satire, not sarcasm.
Fucking team sports man. But in politics it’s apparently who is less of a pedophile this week.
BlueMaga almost as dumb as Maga I swear.
The whole country has proven dumb.
Period.
One of the most disappointing things is seeing how excited libs are for some “abundance” policy. Like, they see the rise of fascism and maga voters regretting their choice and think to themselves “what if we did MORE neoliberalism?!”
I can’t believe they can fall for the same vague promises with zero policy over and over and still think the maga voters are the only dumb ones.
Bill Clinton was a sleazy fuck. He used his position to get a blowie from an intern and a big deal was made of it. But I’m pretty sure the only one who tried to cover it up was the man himself. But to the best of my knowledge he didn’t rape children at organised child rape parties with other child rapists. If it comes out that he did, then lock his ass up and throw away the key. A pedo’s a pedo. Politics doesn’t matter here.
to the best of my knowledge he didn’t rape children at organised child rape parties with other child rapists
Well he was on the flight logs with Prince Andrew, Kevin Spacy, and Donald Trump.
There has been no attempt to prosecute them.
All the more reason to make the files public.
Bill Clinton isn’t currently president. Focus on the real problem first, and surprisingly you’ll probably pull the rest down with him. Weird, eh?!
Ничельный insult в русском языке.
We already know about clinton comrade. But Epstein said he was best friends with Trump for 15 years. That more relevant because he’s the president today.
Epstein was a young woman? No way.
The hits keep coming
Guys. I think he raped kids.
On Truth Social, President Donald J. Trump issued a bold and unequivocal statement today blasting what he called a “DISGUSTING, DESPERATE, and TOTALLY FAKE” media smear campaign, denying reports that he hosted a private party for young women with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein as the only other invited guest.
“LET ME BE VERY CLEAR,” Trump said from his Mar-a-Lago estate. “I NEVER — and I mean NEVER — HOSTED ANY PARTY WITH EPSTEEN OR WHATEVER. NEVER HAPPEND. TOTAL FICTON. Just more LIES from the FAILING FAKE NEWS MEDIA.”
The allegation, first published in The New York Times is based on statements by Florida businessman George Houraney and claimed a gathering at Trump’s Florida property included young women and only one other guest—Jeffrey Epstein. Trump called the implication “SICK, TWISTED NONSENSE from a LOSER who I REFUSED to give a job to, even though HE BEGGED ME!.”
“JEFFREY EPSTEEN? I BANNED HIM FROM MAR-A-LAGO, OKAY? He was a VERY BAD GUY. Everyone KNOWS IT. The WORST. Unlike SLICK WILLIE CLINTON — who was flying on the ‘LOLCITA EXPRESS’ like, what, 30 times? SAD!”
Trump went on to recount an alleged emotional encounter with a supporter. “A VERY STRONG MAN came up to me, big guy, tough — real tough — tears in his eyes. And he said, ‘SIR, THANK YOU for NEVER going to that party. THANK YOU for KICKING OUT EPSTEEN.’ And I said, ‘I KNOW.’ He cried. It was beautifull. Most people wouldn’t understand.”
Team Trump emphasized that “no credible evidence exists” of any such party and warned that legal action may be taken against “SLANDEROUS HACKS” in the press.
“IT’S ALWAYS FAKE NEWS,” Trump concluded. “THEY’VE BEEN LYING SINCE THE ESCALATOR. TOTAL WITCHUNT. VERY UNFARE!”
I can’t tell if this is real or satire 🙃
It will be our little secret party 🫲🍊🫱
It’s so icky how they try to use “young women”
…we’re fine with killing kids, but fucking them?..
Who are you referring to with your “we’re” here? The Republicans definitely are fine with both.
How about not being okay with both?
cheers mate, you figured it out…
