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It’s nice to see the senate opposition functioning.
Edit: 18 hours of holding the senate floor, giving voice to the american people. Lots of tears as american suffering is read out loud for the congressional record. Testiment from Americans across the country. This is the voice of the people. Please click the link, share and watch. The media needs to know we care about the opposition more than we care about trump rambling on a plane about fort knox.
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Not really, this wasn’t a functional filibuster. A filibuster is supposed to hold up a vote, and either wear down the opposition, or force concessions in the bill. This wasnt attached to a bill, it was just an opportunity to grab the mic, and score political points with the voters.
The objective was for Cory Booker to audition for Chuck Schumer’s job by laying out what the Democratic agenda would look like under Booker’s leadership, including exhibiting strength. Does anyone believe that the simpering, spineless, weakling Schumer could have spoken like that for even an hour, no less 24?
It is long past time for Schumer to go. Nobody on either side, anywhere in the government, respects him. He’s used his position to gain enormous wealth, and now that his weakness has helped MAGA to gain power and destroy our nation, he STILL wants to hang around and pad his bank account. What other reason could there be? He certainly isn’t offering ANY opposition to the Nazis, just appeasement and compliance.
I’ve hated him with a white-hot passion ever since he cooperated with the Republican smear campaign against Al Franken, destroying his career and his life, just so he could clear the decks for his friend Gillibrand to run for president. Then her camaign flamed out in weeks. They ruined Al Franken’s life for NOTHING. Fuck this Vichy piece of shit.
If he was in front of me, I would happily say all of this to his stupid Nazi collaborator face. I wish I had that chance.
Schumer needs to go, and make way for AOC, and let Booker run the show. I’m not a huge fan of Booker, but he’s light-years ahead of Schumer.
Great situational awareness. Ignore the vote on NATO head in the senate a minute after the filibuster. Ignore the election in Wisconsin we have won against Elons money, and ignore the votes in Florida.
Sure it was worthless what ever you say. I’m over here this topic.
Booker beat the record for longest filibuster on the Senate floor, which was held by a racist, southern fucker beforehand. That itself should be celebrated.
But go off. I didn’t read the last one. Feel free to drop another long one.
You’re the type of shallow thinker I was referring to. Excited that he gave a big speech and stuck it to a dead racist, instead of understanding what was really going on here.
Well go on, happy to hear what I’m missing.
I already made my case, but your response was:
I didn’t read the last one.
So I won’t waste my time with you any further.
This is what we should have been seeing from day one.
Fucking Schumer
Yea we need to keep that energy, i was really hoping someone else would step in and extend it to prevent the vote another day or two.
Bernie Sanders (AFAIK) has done two 12 hour sessions of this in the past week or so. It feels surreal to watch an American politician at his age show such an impressive feat of stamina and determination to fight for the American people. I’m eternally grateful for that man and his lifelong efforts in working for the interests of the working class.
When the story of this era is written, Bernie will be lauded as one of the greatest heroes in American history.
He’ll be making posts from his deathbed. As bleak as things are right now, I really hope he never thinks he didn’t do enough.
It would have been nice if he didn’t bend the knee to the DNC in 2016
Easily his biggest mistake, a cowardly and fatal one.
Other than that he has been a great rep.
What people dont understand, is that the DNC is NEVER going to give the nomination to Bernie, even if he got EVERY vote in the primary, because he is NOT a Democrat.
The presidential nomination is the biggest award a political party can give to a member, and they want to give it to the member that has done the most to support the party, amd earn their allegiance and support in return. Bernie is an independent, and even though he caucases with the Dems, he doesnt raise money for them, he doesnt promote their positions and policies, and over the years, he has been nearly as critical of Democrats as Republicans. They would no more give the nomination to an independent than they would to a Republican, or a Libertarian.
Bottom line: Hes not a Democrat, so the DNC will NEVER give him the nomination. Bernie understands this, its too bad most other people don’t.
Then they shouldn’t have invited Bernie to be in their primary to try to poach his voters
The DNC should have bent the knee to Bernie. The DNC should be abolished for not addressing the populist wave that became MAGA. The tea party movement was about dead and they fed it millions of disenfranchised voters to rebrand into MAGA.
The DNC is locked down by the rich and the decrpid puppets they control.
Notice how they learned nothing from 2016.
In 2020 they didn’t even let progressives into the primary, and in 2024 they didn’t even have a primary.
They are coasting for as long as possible hoping they won’t be replaced before they get to win again in 2028 for “not being Republicans”
It’s on us to replace all of them before that.
agree 100% just no idea how to get rid of them. Pressure them to step down? vacate the organization to be reorganized? Idk what they are thinking from their ivory tower but most of us are ready for them to step down.
Primary them. That’s it.
Exactly. Thats what the Tea Party did. Many established Republicans lost their jobs to far right wingers during the primaries. Many of them went on to lose to their Democratic opponents, often flipping seats, but it sent the message to the party that a serious movement was developing within their party, and eventually they prevailed.
Now Dems need to do the same thing. Ignore the incument status, and only vote for Dem candidates that are willing to show strength, and demand that our government work for the citizens, and not just their wealthy campaign donors. My Dem congressman is extremely weak, and we NEVER hear about him. The next district has 26 year old Max Frost, who is tearing it up and getting on National T1V on a regular basis. He recently got in trouble during a comittee meeting because he insisted on referring to HitlerPig as the Grifter-In-Chief, and refused to stop. They had to cancel the meeting.
We need all our representatives to be like Max, who came to DC to defend America, and attack the Nazis relentlessly. Primaries are the path to do that.
I don’t understand. What would this do. In a primary it’s Democrats against Democrats, or Republicans against Republicans. Sure, the Democratic voters can use a primary to replace one Democrat with another, but it’s still a Democrat. You can’t use a primary to oust a Democrat and replace them with an independent.
As a non-american, I dont understand what thatyou mean. Could you elaborate shortly? And is your comment controversial because people are saying its not true or because they think your critique is misplaced?
That really comes down to if you are a progressive or a neoliberal.
I think people just don’t like critiquing Bernie
In 2015 Bernie Sanders had the biggest grassroots campaign in US history, with more individual doners than any canidate ever. From the perspective of anyone under 30 he was going to easily sweep Trump before he dropped out.
Bernie was asked by the DNC to drop out of the race and asked his supporters to vote for Hillary Clinton, most of his supporters absolutely hate Hillary Clinton so they didn’t vote for her and then Trump won his first election.
The Neoliberals blame the Progressives, and the Progressives blame the Neoliberals.
But IMO at the end of the day it was the Neoliberal canidate that lost to Donald Trump, so it’s their fault. The Neoliberals knew their policies were unpopular and decided to try to bait and then guilt progressives into voting for them. You can see some are still committed to guilting leftists into supporting right wing Neoliberals.
Thanks for explaining. Sounds like the US had a chance to break out of the two-party dictatorship but gave it away for a short term chance at a single term. This is really sad, but Im also convinced the people in power wouldnt simply let it happen. The system has made them so insanely rich and influential that probably nothing short of a violent revolution could break it.
Go Bernie! Go Go! Go Bernie!! I hope all the dem senators can keep the floor forever. it’s been so inspiring watching brooker and the senators helping him make this historic event. longest filibuster in american history.
I thought the republicans only had to threaten a filibuster but didn’t actually have to do it. But democrats have to do it live?
Yes because democrats are pushovers. Everyone knows that. Nice of Booker to show up with his spine and his shit talking voice. He’s a legend for this.
We might have to hold the flooor and filibuster for 2 years straight to save old America. Im glad somones got the balls to show up and do it. I’m here for it. In this house all we do is listen to filibuster and support the peoples power.
Technically it isn’t a filibuster,
Depending on how long he is able to go, he could disrupt Senate business on Tuesday, though his speech technically isn’t a filibuster — the chamber is currently in a limited period of debate time for Matthew Whitaker’s nomination as ambassador to NATO.
Per https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/03/31/congress/cory-booker-talk-a-thon-00262482
It just behaves as you would expect a filibuster to behave. The standard no-show threatening is still a thing you can do.
idk where politico and news week are getting their definition of a filibuster, but talking for 24 hours to hold off a nomination vote is a filibuster to me. My community college education may have failed me but i interpret a 25 hour speech on the senate floor a filibuster.
I’ll be honest I assume it’s some parliamentary specifics. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a filibuster to me. Allegedly it isn’t, but AFAIK, it is. It’s what I expect one to look like. It behaves like one. So it is.
By definition its a filibuster. I think everyone is saying its not a filibuster, because it can not be stopped through cloture. So under the senates procedures and protocols it cannot be voted down like a filibuster. Not that they have the votes anyway. And the rest are just undermining and don’t understand what a filibuster is. It’s their first time hearing about it and they are trusting news week to do their thinking.
A filibuster is just a long speech or something to delay the legislative session. it can be used for a specific bill, or as they are using it now, it can be used to delay a nomination vote for 24 hours. RIP NATO.
To be fair, filibuster has two meanings: this, and the other definition being an individual or small group of individuals, acting indepedently, taking over territory of another state in the name of their country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_(military)?wprov=sfla1
Yes yes. English is hard. Words have 10 meanings and we also use idioms to really make it confusing.
Thats not the meeting we’re discussing since its a senator obstructing a legislative body via a long speech which is procedurally allowed.
Class warfare of course. The rich want to make an example of him.
Crank up the class warfare time. we outnumber them by like 10 million to one. This gonna be an easy win.
Yeah ummm hate to break it to you, if you had got those 10million to one people organized enough to vote, then your problem would have been solved already and we shouldn’t be where we are
They are very comfortable now, they are filled with hate and self righteousness. They are not smart enough to fear whats coming, they don’t think it’s coming for them. Stove theory. Cut the lights and the checks off see who really needs and loves government.
Too many boot lickers and delusional people
Pretty much. It’s a cult, varying degrees of “IM NOT IN A CULT” to “how can I move up in the cult?”
Democrat Cory Booker’s marathon Senate floor speech, in which he is largely criticizing the Trump administration’s policies and spending cuts, has just passed the 12-hour mark.
The U.S. Senator from New Jersey has held the floor since about 7 p.m. ET on Monday, pausing only to take questions—and a breath—from Democrat allies.
He has so far largely targeted spending cuts, including efforts to dismantle the Department of Education, and the need for greater bipartizanship in Congress.
The 55-year-old has vowed to keep going “as long as I am physically able.”
Booker’s speech is not a filibuster because it is not blocking legislation or a nomination.
The New Jesey Senator is part of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s campaign strategy to focus on kitchen-table issues, including federal spending cuts, ahead of next year’s midterms.
Watch speech clips in the video above, and follow live footage and text updates below.
fil·i·bus·ter /ˈfiləˌbəstər/ noun 1. an action such as a prolonged speech that obstructs progress in a legislative assembly while not technically contravening the required procedures.
What progress was obstructed here? He started at 7 in the evening and went through the middle of the night, I doubt Republicans had plans to move some critical legislation at 3am.
Well friend, what are you and the people you support doing? Are you opposing legislation by holding the floor and not allowing it to get introduced? Are you bringing a voice to all the suffering thats coming for us all?
Are you still doing the 2024 dems are bad so just let trump win and fuck the world spin?
I’m with you. Either pay attention or hold your criticism of the only people actively trying to stop the Trump administration.
Democrats voted and spoke out against Trump’s cabinet nominations, forced a 15-day vote against Trump’s executive order, confirmed Biden’s pending judicial appointments when Republican attendance is low, and are the ones bringing these cases to the courts. They are doing everything they can to stop this from the minority.
The DNC needs to be risking jail like their opposition in order to be effective. Their GOP counter parts showed how effective that could be and have doubled down on it.
Trying to be strong in the face of adversity requires real risk of consequences. Everything the DNC does is so meticulously calculated to minimize risk all they have is posturing. Speed of execution beats the best planned but half implemented strategies.
Fail faster, take more risk, fucking act like lives are on the line and don’t worry about which lobbyist isn’t going to call you back after you inadvertently nuke their shit.
This guy studying his enemy. Good for you friend. Glad to see so many allies on the sub.
Well, not everything. Like rolling over to allow a spending bill through with absolutely no concessions it’s things like this that make the democrats complicit and not acting as a true opposition party.
The CR/shutdown was a lose/lose. According to EO 14210, Trump could terminate non-essential government employees in a large-scale reduction of workforce if there is insufficient funding. It would expedite Project 2025.
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/don-t-use-shutdown-plans-to-slash-the-federal-workforce
And the funding bill gave expansive new military powers to the executive office, it wasn’t just a stop gap bill. It’s the same lame Duck crap democrats continue to do that put our country in the position it is in. They are complicit and are more aligned with the republicans than they are a true left or progressive party.
Right if you can’t stop Hegseth form getting nominated at least do something to slow it down. Any opposition is good.
This is real political opposition. Not holding a sign for TV cameras. 17 hours of reading Americans pleas of mercy. This is american he’s voicing my concerns and obstructing republicans. This is what i want. Sorry it offends so many. Im going to watch all day and tell my friends to watch.
Support this if you hate authoritarianism.
Something I want to highlight, because I know it’ll come up (even if just in people’s minds) is democratic betrayals and silence, eg on the budget CR.
Chuck Schumer likely betrayed the Dems either for financial institutions and “stability”, or for state safety and cowardice. The former is scummy, and pretty much grants him all the hate he deserves. The latter is also plausible, and perhaps more excusable (still betraying our wishes) in that millions of people who hadn’t been following politics would hear smear tactics against Democrats. Plus, it would shut down the courts which is the one area of frequent victory.
I’m not making that case because I agree with it, especially now that courts are faltering, just that someone good but scared could believe it. And even if you assume the worst of Chuck, think about the motivations that put most Democrats in place across the country. A good number of them aren’t going to capitulate to the silence/financial appeasement.
If you want a better solution: Research democratic candidates before you vote for them. I’ve been phone banking for Susan Crawford, and while everything I see about her is good, I do get worried by the voter response of “Oh, I always vote Democrat!” Someday, for some people, that will not be a good idea. For some 80% of them, it is. And if the House is ever 80% democrat, it won’t matter that 20% of them are spineless.
I agree with this sentiment 100%. I feel totally betrayed by Schumer. I feel really good good watching Corey broker spend 16 hours reading constituents letters before the congressional record.
I agree we can’t blindly vote for a party. That is what got us here. But presidential elections come down to 2 candidates and it’s going to be a lesser of two evils vote. Trust me I hate the dems as much as any dem. I’m a true centrist I like policy that makes sense on both sides of the isle. I don’t remember a time in history where the lesser of two evils contrast was so high.
We really need to clean sweep congress and get fresh blood who’s represents the american people and not corporations and billionaires.
Are you opposing legislation by holding the floor and not allowing it to get introduced?
Booker isn’t either. Again, in case you missed it:
“Booker’s speech is not a filibuster because it is not blocking legislation or a nomination.”
Booker is grandstanding. Talking. Talking gets us nowhere. Is he DOING anything? No. The entire party is rudderless, weak, and borderline complicit. ACTUALLY complicit in the cases of Schumer and Fetterman and Durbin, to name a few.
In case you missed it look up the definition of a filibuster. Please try and think REALLY hard, about how obstucting a legislature works. Do your best to really consider the definition of filibuster and get back to me.
Any time taken up on the senate floor, cannot be used by republicans and their dem traitor friends to pass law.
This is good. Its not going to save the world, but this is a good start to opposition. I wish i could find a better way to express myself on this one but your opinion leaves me at a loss for words.
Your link just had a ton of articles i could not find your quote.
He’s holding the senate floor in a filibuster. If what you say is true they maybe trying to introduce legislation or a nomination. I seriously doubt they are standing up there all night to stretch their voices. They are submitting public testimony to the record.
Did you have any thoughts? I’m not even sure how to respond to your link.
Edit: I found the quote, they described a filibuster, and then claimed his was not one. Great reporting. Holding the floor for 12 hours is obsructing the legislature.
fil·i·bus·ter /ˈfiləˌbəstər/ noun 1. an action such as a prolonged speech that obstructs progress in a legislative assembly while not technically contravening the required procedures.
The Senate does not have a time limit on any speech like other bodies do. One a Senator has the floor, they can keep talking until they yield the floor.
A traditional Filibuster is when a Senator does this to postpone a particular vote. Since there was no vote pending, technically this doesn’t count as a Filibuster. Which means Booker can get the press coverage for doing this, without really holding up anything important.
I don’t know if you remeber 2008-2016 but republicans basically threatened to filibuster everything and no laws got passed.
Democrats are warming up for 2-8 years of filobustering everything I hope. Its better than you know 12 senators voting with republicans to screw their constituents. Schumers to old to hold the floor for 12hours over night. Someones gonna have to be brave enough and strong enough to oppose like this for years.
Glad to see so much popular support. The virgin rage and impotence is palpable.
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… Thanks for linking to a source which confirms my interpretation, you did my work for me!
the term filibuster was first used in the 1850s when it was applied to efforts to hold the Senate floor in order to prevent a vote on a bill.
Seriously it will not kill you to support some kind of political opposition to authoritarianism flirting with nazis.
I’m always amazed this site is a bunch of left of center folks and yet your words and actions are always in favor of republicans destroying progressivism.
How is being a doomer working out? You guys gaining any ground on not getting deported or detained for 1st amendment rights?
You think this is doing nothing? So you’re telling me the republicans have no pending legislation or nominations they are trying to pass this week? You don’t think they have an endless list of bullshit to pass. Any time taken away from them being able to screw us over is good.
You’re making me a doomer tho chill.
Ah yes, a real heritage foundation constitutionalist here folks.
Yes The glorious US government of 1850. What was it that happened 11 years later? Are we even the same government at this point?
Has the filibuster been used in different ways since that time. 2008-2016, they just said filibuster and no one even had to hold the floor, the bills would crumble.
let these fuckers cook and pray they can hold the floor for 2 years.
Oh, I thought they were actually doing something.
I mean, giving an extra long speech where you point out all the terrible things Trump is doing and read letters from constituents is doing something, it’s just not a filibuster or anywhere near the level of intensity we need. Telling Republicans they’re hurting people isn’t going to change their minds.
I don’t understand why some in this thread are so offended when it’s noted that it’s not a Filibuster, because it’s not blocking a vote. It doesn’t matter what we call it. He’s doing this to get some attention to certain issues, and it’s working. In many ways, it’s better that he does it when no critical vote is pending, because he can’t be accused of obstructionism.
People need to understand that, as the minority party in the Senate, all Democrats can really do is obstruct. And Republicans are counting on that obstruction, because it makes it easier to tear shit down. If Democrats simply refuse to let anything come to the floor, Republicans will just wait until the entire government defaults, and then blame it all on Democrats.
Democrats need to pick their battles carefully, and I think Booker did a good job here. Whether or not is actually blocks votes is besides the point.
I’d he fine if he did this and caused the shut down. At least the USAID folk would still technically have a job. Stop with this delicate fine line bullshit. We all know what a shit heel Trump is and what he’s done. 25 hours and he’ll get a 15 second blurp on a Sinclair outlet. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
It is litterally a filibuster. You are gaslighting, thats why people are upset. If democrats make it clear no bipartisan legislation will pass, thats the only opposition we have.
Holding the senate floor for 2 years is the only good idea the democrats have come up with thus far.
Did you find anything in that link to suggest that they are doing a filibuster for fun. would love it if they would filibuster until 2026.
fil·i·bus·ter /ˈfiləˌbəstər/ noun 1. an action such as a prolonged speech that obstructs progress in a legislative assembly while not technically contravening the required procedures.
Im so glad so many people understand how our government works and make every effort to undermine oppostion and support authoritarianism.
Democrats voted and spoke out against Trump’s cabinet nominations, forced a 15-day vote against Trump’s executive order, confirmed Biden’s pending judicial appointments when Republican attendance is low, and are the ones bringing these cases to the courts. They are doing everything they can to stop this from the minority. Pay attention or hold your criticism.
Yet somehow Democrats are even worse than Republicans, which is why Americans took power from them and gave it to Republicans.
Stupid fucking clown country.
it is an absolute clownshow out there for sure! We need to stop it before it gets way out of hand and has cataclysmic effects.
Well yeah you should. Im honestly shocked that most people are okay with this and arent protesting. If Germany would be in the midst of a fascist takeover again, Id spend half my day on the streets shouting. Im not evem sure if its not already too late, Trump has eliminated almost all resistance except for something the order of a revolution.
You gotta remember in America we are all far apart. I have to drive 30 minutes to the closest protest. 40 Million people in california live 48 hours away from washington DC.
We can’t easily get our population in the same place at the same time. People are doing their best, there are lots of small protests everywhere. They will get bigger when the weather gets nicer. This filibuster has got me excited. Hopefully we can get rid of some of the apathy and get to some action. We are doing something we’re just spread apart and are lacking direction and leadership. It’s hard to keep hope, hell its hard to keep up with the stream of evil shit this admin does every day.
It’s breaking me and stealing my humanity. More people will fight as it breaks them too. They may have to lose their granma to poverty and disease but even thats not far away now.
Of course, not everyone can get to DC, but there are already millions there. Thanks for doing your part.
Yea I hope to hear more news from the big cities. For those of you who can just walk out of your houses in mass, grab a sign and do it!
I got 20 people in 2 miles of me. Our town square is just a corner of a highway with a gas station and a church.
Performative garbage, they had a chance to actually prevent it and they folded.
It’s the ONLY productive thing they can be doing. Prevent republicans from using the congress. They only want to use it to give the power of the people to ELon musk.
This SHOULD have been done to stop the last CR. Democrats had a chance to present a united opposition with both the Senate and the House but threw it away. This is not the ONLY productive thing they could be doing, it’s the only legal thing they can do. Democrats are still playing by the rules and following decorum. Americans are angry many seem to be starting to realize they were sold a culture war when what they are actually fighting is a class war. Until the messaging becomes that of a class war Democrats will not be able to capitalize on the anger.
Class waaaaaaar!!! CHARRRGE!!!
Well said. If you listen to the filibuster its full of populist lust for justice and compassion. I’m hoping this is where the anger and hope mix and we can start working on saving this country. least what we can.
This is the type of stuff we need. The battle is being fought in the media. It’s time to for a performance that outshines the political garbage the right dishes out.
This is the whole problem, the government isn’t working for people. The media isn’t even working for people, look how few people even rely on traditional media these days. The answer can’t be more government as usual more traditional media coverage. What we need is grand action. Fight the battle in the streets (not violence) force a prolonged general strike, organized mass boycotts, create a run on the banks, and become generally ungovernable.
Not a filibuster
noun: filibuster; plural noun: filibusters
- an action such as a prolonged speech that obstructs progress in a legislative assembly while not technically contravening the required procedures.
HOW IS THIS NOT A FILIBUSTER HOW IS THIS NOT A FILIBUSTER HOW IS THIS NOT A FILIBUSTER???
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When are we going to finally get rid of the filibuster?
When the republicans can get a majority in the senate and stop the dems from using it? Hopefully it lives on for 200 more years with this country i know and love.
I’m OK with a live filibuster. Being able to “filibuster” a bill by passing a note to the teacher threatening to talk all night does not promote compromise or good lawmaking.
I’m watching a live filibuster. A 18 hour long speech. Holding the senate floor and preventing any legislation or nomination.
YES ITS NOT A FILIBUSTER OF A CERTAIN BILL. IT IS A FILIBUSTER OF ALL NEW BILLS AND NOMINATIONS. IT TAKES TIME AWAY FROM THE REPUBLICAN ADGENDA.
I HOPE THIS HELPS.
JUST CLICK THE LINK AND WATCH THE THING STOP TELLING ME WHATS GOING ON I’VE BEEN UP WATCHING THIS SINCE 6 AM
It wasn’t a filibuster.
