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The USA is a model of excess, inequality and brutality. What kind of a lunatic uses that language or even role model? This is absolute fangirl language and doesn’t belong in civilised society.
For what it’s worth, there have been many United States that aren’t the US of America. Mexico’s full name is United Mexican States, and historically there have been USes of Brazil, Belgium, Colombia, Indonesia, Central America, and a few more
That said, I’m a native English speaker and the article is in Spanish. I don’t know if the original Spanish has an implication of “be like the USA” or if it’s just a way to say “Federalised EU”
Fair points. In the Anglosphere, there are groups called Volta using this exact same phrase. The even use imagery of racist genociders like Winston Churchill in their promotional material. They call themselves progressive. I wish I was joking.
No thanks.
We don’t want to build the setup for fascists to take over like in the US.
Why would a more integrated EU allow fascists to take over?
The fascists are anti EU and currently seem to be rapidly gaining power in national governments.
1 central governement to take over instead of 27.
While true, i think it would be harder for something like the AfD to take over the EU central government then the german national government.
Maybe for AfD, but fascists will always find a way. The RN in France always comes first in the EU parliament elections despite them being nationalistic anti-EU nazis spin-offs. If there’s a place of power they’ll try to get there. A “United States of Europe” would be a whole lot of uncessary risk.
A few decades ago people used to think it would be hard for the fascists to take over the US, that they were a minority that wouldn’t gain popularity or a foothold in the different branches of government.
Obviously, we were wrong. And the rise of the far-right in EU countries shows the same can still happen there.
Having close ties with each other is good, helping each other is awesome, but centralizing power will only make it easier for it to be corrupted by fascism as climate change restricts global resources and the fascists are ready with their tired old scapegoats.
It might be harder for them to take over, but it would also be harder to remove them.
Yeah be we can do it our way, with blackjack and hookers!
Jesus, it’s just way to say it needs to be a federation with more centralized government. No one is saying we should copy any specific ideas from US.
EU is falling behind because it’s unable to effectively work together for a common goal. Every country is constantly trying to protect its interests. We can’t stop Russians from entering EU because Italy and Spain is blocking it. We can’t ban gasoline cars because Germany is blocking it. More centralized government could solve those issues and let Europe compete with US and China.
I agree that it’s needed in this day and age, when we are faced with dictators.
However more centralized powers have historically led to war within Europe. Think about World war I and II, the Balkan wars, the Prussian wars, Napoleonic wars, the Seven years war, war of the Spanish succession and so on. This is the reason the EU is set up the way it is, all countries can influence decisions and there’s no dominant power overruling others. So it’s a bit of a double edged sword. Centralization helps to suppress cultural differences but doesn’t solve them.
Totally. I think huge progress was made in the last couple of decades but nationalism is still very strong in many countries and most people are still definitely not ready to put the good of Europe ahead of their national interests. Federation is needed but Europe is still not ready for it. Maybe in couple more decades but we’ll be lucky if EU survives for that long.
No, thanks.
We need to become more like Switzerland, not America. Direct democracy is the way, fire all unelected bureaucrats!
We need to become more like Switzerland
Support all possible genocides and war criminals while claiming neutrality?
Political system ≠ Political position
But if we go down that way, the USA isn’t an example to follow either, as it has taken even worse positions.
no it’s fucking not
The EU was originally supposed to be called the United States of Europe, but in the end the name European Union was chosen instead.
It was also originally supposed to be a federation, again more closely resembling the US.
These are among the first things you can read when entering the Parlamentarium next to the European Parliament building in Brussels.
Entry is completely free if you’re ever in the area.
Did everyone forgot we already have idea and movement of EF https://federalists.eu/
Ventotene has just launched a new call to build the United States of Europe
Ventotene is once again at the heart of the debate on Europe’s future. On the Italian island that is a symbol of European federalism, the declaration “It is time to build the United States of Europe” was adopted and signed on 30 August 2026, promoted by the Third Jean Monnet Action Committee for the United States of Europe.
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