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    Distractions. Diversions… The concentration camps got wiped off the news cycle. The protests got wiped off the news cycle.

    Every cycle they have a few of their guys play the other side. Like a good cop bad cop routine. Works every time.

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      Nobody cared about the kids in cages during Trump’s last term and nobody’s ever cared about people spending their weekends waving signs around (except when they can use them as an excuse to triple-down on authoritarianism.) People actually care about this. It’s stupid, sure, but we’re dealing with Americans here.

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      His fanbase just LOVES the hole idea of punishing immigrants, and that includes putting them in camps.

      I think you’re confusing your own reaction and that of the bubble you live in (who call it “concentration camps”, which curiously, was not used for Guantanamo Bay back when the President was a Democrat though there too it made sense) with those of the Trump fanbase who elected him mainly because he repeatedly said he was going to “stop” immigrants.

      The relentless implying that “Trump is a Pedo” that’s happenning with this Administration’s reaction to demands for release of the Epstein Files, when his very support base was been repeatedly made to rage against Democrats with “pedo stories” in the Past, to distract them from something which they actually like and want, doesn’t sound at all like a good strategy.

      This seems to me like something which is far more logically explained by Incompetence than by Malice.

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      I love how liberals think that Trump’s antics are a 57d chess game to hide his brilliant “master plan”.

      Ffs, it’s not a distraction, it’s the thing.

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    I mean, he doesn’t flip-flop hardly ever or change policies in decades.

    Jones said this without any sense of irony.

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    Nothing Alex says ever means something. He’ll change his mind tomorrow if it’s profitable. His opinion is worth less than nothing.

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    This is what I’ve been trying to explain to people for a few days now. Grifters like Charlie Kirk or Dinesh D’Souza will just go along with whatever Trump says on Epstien. They never believed in or cared about QAnon and the conspiracy bullshit. They opportunistically picked it up when it was useful, they’ll drop it now that it’s inconvenient, and a big chunk or MAGA will listen to them.

    But guys like Alex Jones, who, if he isn’t actually a die-hard true-believer, at least knows that his audience is entirely die-hard true-believers, will not do that. They have staked everything on a made up story about satanic pedophiles that started with Comet Ping-Pong and ended with Jeffery Epstien, and they can’t just drop it. That is another large chunk or MAGA, and it will go to war with anyone, even Trump, to keep their delusion going.

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    I’m sorry, but this is Rawstory writing what people wanna hear for clickbait. Here’s their clip:

    https://rumble.com/v6w9hfk-thats-a-cult-alex-jones-disavows-trump-after-he-tells-fans-to-drop-epstein.html

    That is not repudiation. It’s wobbling on a single tweet, even with their selective cut.

    Honestly I wish this source was softbanned from /c/news. Like it is from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#The_Raw_Story

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        The pinned post is literally:

        Wednesday LIVE: Desperate Deep State/MSM Pushes “Epstein Hoax” & “MAGA Divorce” In Attempt To Fracture & Bring Down The Trump Administration! Tune In NOW For Latest Developments As Alex Jones Covers This & Other Key Issues!

        Scrolling down, I see clips of him being… combatively apologist. The tone being “Trump is an idiot for doing this, instead of that.”

        Also, thank the heavens xcancel is still running from whatever black magic backend they’ve figure out.

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          He’s hedging and still trying to support some/most of the Trump line, but he isn’t doing the usual 100% blind support of Trump

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            Alex Jones predates Trump and has always been combative, even about Trump policy, from what I’ve seen. He criticized some of Trump’s earlier moves, like with Ukraine.

            This is all in character for him, though I admit that’s just my surface impression.


            But objectively, his pinned tweet outright says “MAGA Divorce is a false liberal meme.” That is not the message of someone “disavowing” Trump.

            You can try to read between the lines, but IMO you should take what he says at face value.

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    “I am just like, whoa, okay. That’s not very Trumpian. I mean, he doesn’t flip-flop hardly ever or change policies in decades.”

    Poe’s Law. It’s very hard for my brain to accept that this isn’t sarcasm, Joe Rogan is indeed this stupid.

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    Related:

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/16/politics/trump-epstein-weaklings-supporters

    “Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump wrote in a missive on Truth Social. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years."

    “I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax,” he wrote. “Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!”

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    Wasn’t Alex saying just the other day this is 4D chess to blackmail those on the list?

    It may not have been Trump’s intent (let’s face it, it wasn’t, the idiot never has a plan and just reacts emotionally to everything), but it is very revealing to see who is coming out this week defending the ludicrous notion that the list is fake and there are no perps. If someone rich is making that claim, you can bet your ass they’ve visited Epstein island.