Zelensky posted warm thanks to Israel’s president for Independence Day wishes. He said Ukraine-Israel ties will grow and prayed for peace. Meanwhile, Israel bombs Gaza and occupies Palestine. Russia does same in Ukraine. Ukraine supports Israel, but Israel is just like Russia. Selective outrage is not okay. If you cry about invasion, dont support another invader.
source: https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/2092372329594511598
They’re also allied with the USA, who are also attacking countries as they see fit. I’d assume by default that Ukraine just allies with whoever is willing and able to support them materially, and IDK if I should fault them for that while they’re in the middle of fighting against an invasion. Then again, Zelenskyy is Jewish and as such probably pro-Israel like most Jews …
You are right. While the majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes, not all of them do. I have shared several jews videos that condemn and against zionism and Israel
While the majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes
Source for this ridiculous claim?
The ridiculous claim of some Jews being anti-zionist, or the ridiculous claim of most Jews being zionist?
I meant to quote part of the comment. Fixed. Thanks.
One second of Google would help you. 62% of Israelis believe there are no innocents in Gaza. How much further in nationalisocialistic rhetoric can you go from there?
the majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes
vs.
62% of Israelis believe there are no innocents in Gaza
Try again?
Are you stupid or you don’t see the connection?
Source: https://sh.itjust.works/c/ZionistViolenceMonitor?dataType=Post&sort=New
Dozens of videos show that some jews are against zionism and Israeli crimes.
You claimed that
the majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes
Where is your source for that. As it stands, it’s just antisemitism.
the implication here is that if he’s right, reality is anti-semitic, which is not the case at all!
Israel’s tragic attempt to merge Judaism and Zionism seems to be succeeding globally. if anything, their propaganda machine is your anti-Semitic culprit
the implication here is that if he’s right, reality is anti-semitic, which is not the case at all!
The implication is that if they are making shit up about jewish people they are anti-semitic.
Also, your two links are not sources for the claim that I quoted.
Israel’s tragic attempt to merge Judaism and Zionism seems to be succeeding globally.
Because of people like OP conflating jewish people with Israelis.
as a socialist white American who opposes the imperial regime i kind of know how the ~12% of anti-Zionist Jews who want global recognition of their identity feel. we want our existence recognized but we accomplish LESS THAN NOTHING and then we get upset that we are lumped in with genociders, meanwhile the majority planned this and wants this. when Jewish anti-Zionism accomplishes anything, it’ll be recognized, until then yall are basically like white American socialists, you try again and again but despite your efforts things are getting worse, fast, and there are SEVERAL groups of people who are CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING something far worse than you are who get to speak instead of you, for now. (white Americans have it a little better rhetorically because we don’t have compulsory military service and our settler-colonialism is, for some reason, referred to using the past tense)
I’m not upset that you’re whining about it, i whine too, but no one is going to take us seriously until we prove, materially, that it matters in any real way that we believe the correct thing. it’s not happening yet, but if this continues without any real accomplishment, when gen alpha gets old enough they are going to globally accuse you of LARPing like Gen Z did with the communists here, and you’ll split into “anti-Zionists” and “non-Zionists” like we did here with leftism, as the Palestinians begin to dwindle into the tens of thousands, then thousands, then hundreds
Because of people like OP conflating jewish people with Israelis.
NO, I don’t conflate. Not all jews are israelis and related to Israel!
Can you please explain what you want to say with that link?
The majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes
The majority of jews support Israel’s crimes. But not all. Those who don’t support Israel’s crimes can be found in the links. Additional link: https://tankie.tube/c/zionistcrimemonitor/videos
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Ukraine isn’t the one invading another country, so there’s that.
Yes, they invaded Kursk?
Question is, if invading a different country was really the point you are trying to make.
Kursk is a Russian state. Are you really faulting Ukraine for pushing north over the border in an area that wasn’t as heavily protected, while they were getting overran to the east.
No faults given. Just answering a wrong claim.
Are you calling your persona dirt because you don’t want us to realize you’re actually a walking pile of shit?
Well, one side is invading a sovereign country with the stated goal of annexing it and displacing the population.
The other side is being invaded and suffering a genocide by a vastly larger country, and are desperately trying to get whatever help they can.
So no, it doesn’t raise that question at all. Or at least, not among people with more than 2 braincells.
Yeah we’ve been saying that the US has never been on the right side of a conflict but you libs keep telling us this one is different
IDK man, I’m pretty happy that Hitler didn’t win WW2.
The US gets at best 3/4 credit for that.
Welcome to politics, Ukraine needs any support it can get and that means climbing ass of whoever is not Russia. Like giving medals to Elon Musk just to make sure he does’t wake one day and give Russia access to Starlink again
🤔 pity Zelenskyy
I refuse to judge a man trying to keep his people alive in the worst of times. He has to make impossible decisions and I’m not in any position to think I could do better.
lol i could, but I’m the type to lose a war i can’t win, instead of stalemating for decades
I’m the type
Come on, you’re commenting on Lemmy. You’re not the type to do anything lol
you think I’m not a loser, you have another thing coming
Yeah no, Israel is definitely doing much worse shit than Russia. What’s going on there isn’t a mere invasion.
💯
Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows
The Ukrainians are doing what everyone thought was impossible. As long as they don’t do warcrimes I’ve got no notes.
Wildberries is not a warcrime, it’s a hybrid military supply chain. Same with gasoline.
Ukraine is hitting infrastructure that helps the Russian army. This is war, and sometimes they hit the wrong targets, but Russia is deliberately hitting cultural places and civilian infrastructure.
While the Ukrainian Left is, from all I know, a stark supporter of Palestine.
Ukraine is hitting infrastructure that helps the Russian army. This is war, and sometimes they hit the wrong targets, but Russia is deliberately hitting cultural places and civilian infrastructure.
It’s not that I disagree with you, but I don’t get the quote. Are you sure you responded to the right comment?
Sorry, I edited the comment. I didn’t want to quote any comment.
While the Ukrainian Left is, from all I know, a stark supporter of Palestine.
While the Ukrainian Left is, from all I know, a stark supporter of Palestine.
Yes
Yeah, supporting fascism is 100% okay if other fascists say it is.
If fascist A helps you to fend off fascist B… yeah, it absolutely is.
Unfourtanely true 💯
As long as you can excuse genocide I guess you’ll accept any logic. But that’s okay, it’s only brown people.
My people genocided mostly white people, so this accusation is… a bit off
Putin claims, that Ukraine is not a valid state - and (like all revanchists do) he presents some “historic data” to rewrite and “fix history”. When attacking Ukraine, putin’s Russia also calls the attacks as “setting the territory free”. Putin also VERY broadly uses other terms like “nazi” (“neonazi”). How convenient!
In the Palestine-Israel war there are equal revanchist claims to rewrite and “fix” history, as well as demands about another state not being “real” or “valid”. Out of the two sides, it’s the single one resembling putin’s revanchists and using the same rethorics to set the territories “free”. And not tolerating the other one to even exist.
That’s an unpleasant pill to swallow, i know. It has never been. Hence, the war.(
Pro-russian ignore the reality that Ukraine has Jewish president. That is not Nazi. The ‘denazify’ excuse ignores that the USSR killed 27 million — the same scale as the Nazis. Russia is not fighting Nazis, just invading. And they know it very well.
