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  • WHY DO YOU THINK CHINA DOESN’T HAVE DEMOCRACY?

    It does.

    And what’s ‘best’ is easy to determine. You get the corpus of people doing the job, all of whom have interest in not colluding on who’s best for at the job because they all want that spot, and they decide who is best at the job.

    That is democracy manifest.

    That is just not UNIVERSAL DEMOCRACY, because SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW A BALLCOCK FROM HIS COCK AND BALLS DOES NOT NEED TO VOTE ON WHO IS THE BEST PLUMBER.

    Your incredibly terrible analogy only describes what is the best business to shop from, which makes sense that consumers of that business should vote for that.

    But people that have never ordered a plumber SHOULDN’T VOTE ON WHO THE BEST PLUMBER IS.

    In your own analogy you argue AGAINST UNIVERSAL DEMOCRACY AS NONE OF YOUR EXAMPLES HAVE IT.

    You shouldn’t rely on people that know absolutely nothing about what they’re voting on to vote for those things. That SHOULD BE FUCKING OBVIOUS.

    How do you determine the best etc? CONSENSUS BY PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAINED TO KNOW WHAT’S BEST.

    There is an objective way to measure effectiveness at any job, period. If there isn’t, it’s not a job. It’s a hobby.

    Pick the best, and when it’s unclear, you vote.

    Hence Chinese Meritocracy, every union that has ever existed, and why China has better democracy than the west where every idiot votes on everything despite not knowing anything about the thing they’re voting on.

    In short, THANKS FOR AGREEING THE CHINESE WAY IS BEST.

    Edit: To be clear:

    "Oh shit, looks like you need additional input to determine what the BEST even is in literally every single interpretation of it imaginable. Maybe you should hire a panel of experts to figure out who THE BEST IS at that moment. "

    THIS IS THE THING YOU ARE ARGUING AGAINST. THIS IS THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT AT ALL LEVELS AND LAYERS. THIS IS LITERALLY HOW THE ENTIRETY OF CHINESE SOCIETY WORKS. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU GAVE CHINA’S DEMOCRACY AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT CHINA SHOULD BE.






  • Literally every single thing you’ve said here was wrong.

    The majority of Party arrests in the last 5 years have been Xi’s appointees and supporters. (which isn’t surprising given he’s had majority support)

    Also no, they don’t ‘reclassify’ anyone. They do not magically give people millions of dollars just to execute them, do you actually hear yourself when you have these thoughts or are you just a complete blank inside?

    I still see ZERO SOURCES supporting your beliefs, and they are BELIEFS, by the way. Come on, just one single non-NED backed source and I’ll admit I’m wrong. Just one. One single one.


  • He’s president for life. He no longer faces election.

    This isn’t true.

    He faces election every five years.

    The change you’re confusing is there are no term limits, so he can be elected again in 2028, should the NPC so choose (which they won’t since he’ll be retired by then.)

    The bourgeoisie can come from anywhere and any class. There is no background that makes you immune from becoming part of the bourgeoisie. But in the future I’ve got this handy trick you can use to identify bourgeoisie. I call it the “definition”.

    Cool, Xi, and the entirety of the people’s congress falls outside that definition.

    So what definition are you using that is entirely different from Marx’s?

    China regularly murders all those who cross the party. Any sources to back up this claim?

    Bourgeoisie and proletariat alike.

    Except the death penalty specifically targets the Bourgeoisie, as it in was originally only envisioned for it and besides murder and treason there are no crimes a proletariat can perform to get a death sentence, period.

    It’s not a virtue. That the party allows and supports the existence of such a petit bourgeoisie in any capacity is damning to anyone who isn’t a hypocrite campist. That you think the wealthy and powerful have no purchase or influence over themselves is cute though.

    Everything here is unsubstantiated nonsense, I do hope you look into any independent sources to try to back this up though.

    I’ve met people who themselves or their family been targeted by chinas government for oppression

    Got any names or sources? I very much doubt it was ‘oppression,’ and not ‘they committed a crime that’s a crime everywhere and gave you a sob story.’

    If you want to dismiss every non Chinese government source, that’s willfully ignorant, but consistent. Just like the liberals so many that glaze China claim hate while behaving so similar.

    Give me a non-NED source for any of your claims.

    Period.

    Change my mind. Every single time I have asked this of a sinophobe, they have only provided NED sources.

    So if you have non-NED sources, give me them.


  • Who do you think is the bourgeoisie in China and why do you think Xi, who has to win reelection every time and started as a farm boy in rural China is somehow an unanswerable dictator?

    Like you understand China regularly executes billionaires, strips companies of their power and wealth, including and especially all executives, nationalizes the resources of the rich on a VERY consistent basis, and has no function for rich people to influence government, right?

    Like you have actually researched how China’s government works from Chinese sources and come to your own conclusion and not just listened to NED (cia) funded organizations like RFA who regularly just make shit up with no sources specifically to create a negative view of China in order to justify sanctions and military action while demonizing the most successful example of actual democratic socialism to have every existed, right?

    Only a complete ninnyhammer would just accept the conclusions drawn for them by the CIA and it’s leaf companies and not actually research how things work.








  • Guaranteed he slipped and mentioned something that happened BEFORE the protests…

    Because that’s what the CIA does. Like in Tienanmen Square.

    The IRGC aren’t brainwashed. It’s a voluntary organization and members are usually posted near their own homes specifically so they have more reason to defend the people, not abuse them. It makes way more sense the CIA did what THEY ALWAYS DO and armed ‘protestors’ after feeding them a bunch of lies like ‘we’ll take care of you if you just do this,’ and incited violence.


  • It is amazing how you people fall for NED propaganda every. single. time.

    Iranhr.net, the only claim for the death penalty being applied to LGBTQ people in Iran (which is weird since all of Iran’s laws are online, if it were real, you’d think they’d just link the official government site) is an Organization founded, funded, and operated by the National Endowment for Democracy; an organization founded by active CIA members, only hires CIA members and ‘candidates,’ and funds such nonsense reporting as ‘The Uyghur genocide that no uyghur has ever reported experiencing,’ and ‘Why every democracy that doesn’t support the united states is actually a fake democracy hiding a dictatorship.’

    On top of this they are the ONLY source used by the UNHRC’s report linked in the article. Yes I actually clicked through and read the sources.

    So is it more likely that a culture with a history of gay and trans acceptance older than the concept of white skin did a 180 in the last 60 years, especially given Shia Islam is NOT a sect that punishes LGBTQ people… or did the CIA-Backed NGO make shit up to make you hate a country in order to justify war, sanctions, and continual destruction of civilian life at the behest of its corporate and ideologically opposed owners?

    Which is honestly the simpler more likely answer? The most evil empire on Earth that has a 240 year history of lying to its populace to do unpopular things in pursuit of profit doing just that… or a country more progressive (in this specific regard) than the US was until 2015 doing a 180?