• mienshao@lemm.ee
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    Funny how SCOTUS had no problems whatsoever with nationwide injunctions when Biden was president…

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      Well that’s the thing with SCOTUS. You have to ask them to have an opinion on something. They probably wouldn’t have had a problem with national injunctions under Biden if that authority had been challenged in court. And then we would have already had that precedent from literally the same judges for to rely on now.

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          I know. But it is different overturning a 70 year old precedent set by judges who have all since died, versus overturning your own precedent set <5 years ago with all of the concurring judges still on the bench.

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    The main takeaways here are:

    The justices, in a 6-3 vote along ideological lines, said that in most cases, judges can only grant relief to the parties who brought a particular lawsuit and may not extend those decisions to protect other individuals without going through the process of converting a suit into a class action.

    The court did not rule on the legality of Trump’s order purporting to end birthright citizenship, although the three liberal justices said the president’s directive was clearly unlawful.

    So, the plaintiffs will need to certify as a class in order for judges to issue nationwide injunctions now. That’s a pretty huge shift.

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      Man, what a great year for anarchism in the USA, first we had a No Kings day, now we have a No Citizens day! /gallows humor

      Fr tho, this is awful. It seems like for now at least everybody needs to get their own lawyers and court dates to prove they’re a citizen if the Trump administration wants to go after you. BTW, a lot of law firms have struck deals with the administration limiting the kinds of pro bono work they will do. Also deportations to third party countries are legal for now. Also, they may deport you while you have a case pending and then do nothing to bring you back when a court does order it.

      So, yeah, they’ve probably created a “no due process needed, exile all the uppity poor brown queers and any other deviant troublemakers we don’t like, unless they have someone inside the system that can get them a pass (and even then maybe do it anyway)” machine here. Call it fascism, dictatorship, totalitarianism, social darwinism, cyberpunk dystopia, whatever, I think we’re here now.

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    “The universal injunction was conspicuously nonexistent for most of our Nation’s history,” Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote in the majority opinion.

    So was your right to vote. Shall we let the executive branch take that away on a whim as well?

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      Yup. Anti-gun my whole life. Still am. But I’m in the process of buying my first firearm.

      Historically, fascism has to be put down with bullets.

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        We’re coming up to a time where we may need to use the second amendment as the founding fathers intended- and the conservative sheep won’t be happy about it!

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    This is the most important thing, in my opinion, that the fucked up Trump court has ruled on. Saying a president can’t be prosecuted for crimes that were performed as part of his job was wild but unlikely to actually occur. This is both wild and already occurring on a daily basis. This is so unbelievably asinine.

    To sum up: if a judge rules a law or action is obviously unconstitutional, the only person it is unconstitutional for is the person who brought the case to that specific judge.

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      On the one hand this seems awfully terrible for individual citizens that we now all have to file our own lawsuit. But on the other hand it also seems crippling to the federal government having to defend all of those lawsuits.

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    Say Trump announces that you’re not a citizen, that gay marriage doesn’t exist, that all women must give birth annually, whatever. If you’re victimized by it, and have the money or can find a freebie lawyer, maybe you sue the federal government, and maybe you win. But even if you win, you only win for you. The millions of others in exactly your same situation each need to file their own lawsuits, and hope to win. (Unless it’s a class action lawsuit, which involves separate and very, very difficult legal hurdles.)

    If I’m understanding this wrong, and cripes I hope I am, please 'splain it to me.

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      Lmao Americans ain’t gonna do shit with their weapons besides use them to post on tiktok and to take them to school.

      Tyranny? We dont stop that here with our guns no sir. We want it.

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    Only in the aftermath will we know which moment was the final toppling, but for now, I’d nominate this.