• JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
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    Cmon guys, dont diminish his personal accomplishments. Hes easily one of the worst humans in history.

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      By character he is the worst perhaps. His lack of ability is his only redeeming quality.

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        Dunno. Was there ever any record of stalin raping and killing kids, hitler selling fake phones to the nazis or mousellini arresting an olympic athlete for allegedly cutting a 350’ swath of liner from a pool? Did saddam ever get caught on tape saying ‘grab em by the pussy’ in arabic?

        I think not!

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          Who was the guy who had John the Baptist decapitated because he made a promise to his own niece while she gave him a lap dance?

          I’m not saying that’s as bad as trump, but it kinda ranks up there

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    If you think trump is the greatest American then you probably belong in either prison or a psych ward.

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        We have a saying here in Denmark that roughly translates to: Dumber than allowed by the police.
        By that logic they do indeed belong in prison for their stupidity. Except in USA the police is part of the problem too.

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    Imagine being Trump and seeing this.

    It’d be so hard for him not to share the only poll where he’s beating Obama.

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    He is america manifest. Many see him as ugly, but many also see him as their man, because he is like them. Plain speaking, insaitable greed, and bigoted

  • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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    Ah yes, but you see, I’ve recently discovered that all Republicans are most likely cunts, so we shouldn’t take their opinion too seriously

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    Either way, he is the most american American in history. He is the essence of your wretched country. You may strive to be something better, but this is who you are.

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      Thanks for the pointless generalized hatred. Really helps us get better, being hated by assholes on the Internet.

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        Please note this is not directed at you personally as I’m sure you are a good person on an individual level.

        Speaking as a Canadian I, and many of us, are absolutely fed up of your bullshit because regardless of if you personally voted for that shithead and every other shithead around him like Lutnick or Hoefstra this is who the country wants representing them.

        This is also not new behaviour. We have known for decades we are attached to a big brother we love dearly but also happens to run a meth lab in their house and beats their wife.

        You need help. Honest to God you need help. Yet all your country can do is punch down and wail about the rest of the world not bending over when you tell it to.

        We tried helping you get better. We continue to try because we love you. But Jesus Christ get your shit together.

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            How could we not care? You’re our brother after all. But it hurts a lot so much that yes we are making distance now. Not because we stopped caring, but it hurts us as well.

            Regardless of what people think about Carney or Pollievre the numbers show average Canadians are not going to America anymore and average Canadians want to distance ourselves from America.

            Americans writ large are not aware of the generational damage being wrecked on their nation. This will take decades if not centuries to heal at best and may never return to what it once was.

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          You cannot both generalize all of this and also not direct it at members of the group. America is fucked, and telling the people most aware and most upset by it that they’re fucked isn’t helping. Oh you didn’t direct it at me? Do you want me to force magats to read this comment? I’ll never understand the point in this kind of conversation. The effect is literally nothing but rubbing it in while being self righteous.

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          I used to see value in Canadian Moralism. Now I just see it self righteous high horsing. Their claim to political fame, Pierre Trudeau, has had every remaining thread of dignity shredded by his son.

          Canadians have decided it is sufficient to make their single standpoint “well at least we’re not Americans”. And submitted themselves to being easily manipulated media puppets who no longer know their “big brother” because they believe everything their manipulative parents tell about him.

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      Not really any different than so many other countries taken over by bullies. Humans suck everywhere - it’s just a matter of when in history (or future history) you chose to look that you catch some being worse than others at that moment. Jump to another time, and the game of musical chairs will have the bullies sitting somewhere else, but still doing the same shit.

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      Ha, you are going to fall too. You aren’t special, this is a worldwide fascist coup.

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        Never said differently. Like you said, we aren’t any more special than anybody else.

        There is a chance we’ll make it through this better than we were, however. Progressives have been on a roll since Mamdani won NYC mayor late last year. Hopefully that continues until there are enough in place to displace the establishment politicians and make REAL changes that work for everybody.

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      It really sucks because there are some core ideas that are really nice, completely overshadowed by the country’s terrible behavior. The things we were led to believe about ourselves in school would make for a genuinely good society. The secularism, multiculturalism, access to opportunity, many freedoms beyond reproach, etc. Our leaders have for centuries now talked about these and still mostly failed to deliver.

      Well that’s on all of us, but given the outsized influence of the rich, I’m happy to shirk much of our responsibility onto them.

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    What the fuck is wrong with these republicans who still think hes the greatest president ever? Are they just purely racism and hatred and see him as their mascot? Are they so stupid and uninformed that they drink the koolaid and believe everything that comes out of Fox News and Trumps mouth? I have never understood what people see in that piece of shit. I have hated since back in the day when he did his stupid ass cameo in Home Alone 2. He has always been a sleazy fucking rat bastard that turns everything he touches to shit. I can’t believe that so many people bought the bullshit persona they made up for him on the Apprentice…

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        They’re annoyed that people experience empathy and curiosity.

        They don’t.

        They just want to be ignorant bigots without challenge or second thought.

        They’re tired of living with people who are genuinely BETTER HUMAN BEINGS than them.

        It makes them feel weak and stupid and pathetic.

        Don’t hide. Be loud. Remind them. Don’t let them get a moment of respite from the crushing weight of ideas that come from people who actually give a shit.

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      I started it when Jordon Klepper starts to speak. He gives a really good idea of what he things they’re thinking and why. He’s a great source since he’s been interviewing them since the beginning. (37:21) https://youtu.be/oLoXaZoeCoE?t=2241

      The rest of it is great too, but this deals with your question directly.

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      For sure. He was a joke long before he ever got into politics. Only now he’s not funny anymore. What I can’t figure out is whether they genuinely believe he’s a good president, or the trolling level has gotten so good that we can’t even tell. Makes no material difference, but just thinking about it goves me a headache.

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      Humans are social creatures. Facts don’t matter. Emotions and social belonging matter. So people who are just immersed in trump-stuff are going to think it’s all normal and good, and reject contrary facts from the out group.

      This is part of why right wing media is so dangerous. It feeds the in-group solidarity

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    I disagree. Those that voted for him are the worst Americans in history.

    Voting for a paedophile says more about the voter than it does about the paedophile.

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    The Government of Putin will continue to support their pedo, felon, rapist and draft dodging sack of shit. However, the Old Guard Democrats allowed this shit to continue and they are just as responsible for the ongoing disaster.