It takes two to negotiate in good faith. Both Iran and the USA need to want peace, external pressure can only go so far in negotiations.

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    The problem here is entirely caused by the US.

    It’s really a case that Trump doesn’t want peace and needs to bolster his ego

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      Iran had plenty of guilt.

      Trump shouldn’t have got involved. But Iran has been funding anyone willing to attack Israel long enough that I can’t blame them for attacking Iran. And Israel in turn has been doing stupid things with their settler program. Blame exists all over and nobody with power wants peace (plenty without power want peace). Which is why trump was a fool thinking he could do anything useful.

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        Don’t worry about the downvotes. Many Lemmy users that think “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Iran is a cruel authoritarian system that massacres its own population, is reigned by fundamental islamists and destabilizes the whole region for decades. The US is fucked up and the attack was stupid, but people who got sympathies for Iran are crazy.

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          Iran is a cruel authoritarian system that massacres its own population, is reigned by fundamental islamists and destabilizes the whole region for decades.

          This is also the USA’s fault for toppling Iran’s progressive government and installing the ayatollah to get access to Iran’s oil on the cheap.

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            So the Mullahs are innocent or what is your point? That is a weird way to comprehend history.

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              No the point is that it’s the USA, the UK’s and so forth fault because they keep fucking with any weaker country’s politics such that they stay forever weak, regardless if that means propping up genocidal regimes

              Your take is a weird way to comprehend the fact that international pressures and massive interference exist in this world.

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            That was before I was born, or for that matter, when most people alive today were born. We need to quit stopping looking at history and trying to place blame but look at the current world and figure out how we can we make it better. Mind that I have no clue how to do this either, but pointing to history is not particularly helpful to get to the future in this case.

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              The key events happened between 1950 and 1990, plenty of people who are alive now were around for that. Also, studying and understanding history is critical to understanding the current state of the world and to chart a path that does not repeat those mistakes.

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        Iran has been funding anyone willing to attack Israel

        Funny how I never heard of a single missile hitting Israel prior to them bombing children in Iran

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          Then you have not been paying attention. Hezbollah has been sending missiles in off and on for decades. Hamas in Yemen has been doing it once in a while. Palestine as well. All funded in large part by Iran.

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        The U.S. should be bombing Israel.

        They’re a threat to global security, and an adversary to the United States.

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        Trump wasn’t TRYING for peace. He literally went over there to stomp on their foot, and sabotages any attempt at a ceasefire.

        I would be unsurprised if its one of those stupid revenge things he’s doing because someone said something bad about him at one time.

        He’s not using resources to defend America… They’re being used to benefit himself.

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    A video recorded on the bridge of a ship was posted on social media purporting to air an IRGC Navy radio broadcast warning that only vessels with Iranian permission were allowed to pass.

    “Transit only with IRGC permission, on designated routes. No permission, AIS off, or off-route, and you carry the consequences,” the broadcast reportedly said.

    Loser Donald’s losing is getting lose all over everything.

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    So the projectile acted autonomously, without any intervention by any of the conflict parties? Is the projectile now it’s own conflict party? What will this mean for the future of the conflict?

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      It’s not an escalation, don’t worry. The projectile declared independence before it exploded.