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As much as people act like they don’t need contact with other humans, it has been shown to be absolutely necessary for mental health and brain health.
Yeah, but you can get that outside of an office with people you actually enjoy being with.
That is not what I am saying, what I am referencing is her saying you can go days without human contact. Implying she doesn’t hangout with anyone.
That was two days ago. Let it go. Nobody cares anymore.
Speak for yourself. It highly depends on what people you are talking to and the quality of those relationships. IDGAF about anybody at work and could go my entire life without speaking to them again.
I thought the same but over the years my perspective has changed. It’s not actually healthy to think like that about people you spend a third of your time with
I’m civil at work but once I leave the job odds are I will never speak to those people again. Coworkers are not friends, for the most part. There’s maybe a handful of people from previous jobs that I still talk to.
Exactly, which is why I appreciate wfh so much, because the reduced commute time means I’ve had more time to establish a healthy long term social life which will last beyond my current contract. I also appreciate the extra time I get to spend with my loved ones, which, as you rightly point out, is very important for mental health. Mandatory return to office ruins all of this, and taking into consideration what you said, should really be considered a threat to public health and wellbeing.
I do agree with you that work from home is nice. I am not commenting on that what I am commenting on is that according to her the best bit is total social isolation. Because the way she wrote the tweet implies she stays at home alone with no contact to the outside world.
I speak to another human daily when I go get some bread at the corner.
Anyone else notice the weird (possibly AI?) upscaling on this picture?
Some of the comments here have to be astroturfing. I can’t believe that real people would rather be in an office with colleagues than have more time for friends and family.
I’m currently 100% remote, and to be honest I do sometimes miss having coworkers to shoot the shit with, and there absolutely are practical drawbacks to being remote – especially if you are the one remote worker on a team that is at least partially in office together. At least for me the benefits of being home all the time do outweigh that, on balance, but I’d be lying if I told you that I felt that I was as well-integrated with the rest of my teams as I could be, or that being just a voice and/or face in a video call doesn’t have some amount of impact on my long-term prospects.
That said, I really only miss a small handful of my in-office coworkers, and we still do make a point of grabbing lunch every month or three. The rest of the in-office experience can stuff it.
This just in, Lemmy shocked that people have varying opinions
The assumption here is that they have friends and family they want to interact with. It’s lonely when you have no one and working in the office means that you get to socialize and have the potential to do things after work because you’re already dressed/out.
I agree that WFH is far more efficient and a better situation for most office-based workers, but I wouldn’t call going “multiple days without speaking to another human being” an upside. My issue with office work is I have to get up early and get myself ready and fight through traffic, not that I have to interact with other people even if I don’t like some of them.
I think that’s a regressive point of view. I’m skeptical of anyone with a platform that pushes it, and somewhat repulsed by the normal people that repeat it. Naturally, I think. You don’t like people? Well, I’m a people… You’re a people too. All of us are people. Good people, whatever your idea of a bad person is, we all are people and we people are social creatures.
In a healthy society we should want to be around other people and, in fact, as a group we become more accepting of individual differences by encountering and interacting with numerous and diverse groups of people and accepting them into our norm, seeing first-hand that we are all just normal people going through life and striving for what we believe is good. We people add so much more than we threaten, we are capable of great and profound things when we work together to achieve them.
It’s not normal to turn your nose up at that and I hate that it is being normalized.
Some people believe “Hell is other people”.
Others believe “Hell is lack of other people”.
Yes, downsides like drinking better coffee and doing laundry and other chores during the lull of the day.
Good coffee is a major perk. Work from home haters always bring up how important it is to socialise during “coffee breaks” but how enjoyable is it to drink that burnt ass-taste budget watery joe while repeating “nice weather” to random people?
Precisely.
For me, over the years having no connection with anyone at work has actually been detrimental and led me to seek an in office job.
It wasn’t the only factor but it was definitely one of them. Humans are social creatures at the end of the day.
Hey friend, I get you. People don’t need to agree with you, but I think it’s wild the number of downvotes you receive for simply stating your own personal desires.
I work at a job where I’m not expected to be in the office. But we still go, based on personal preferences. There are some people who never go, and that’s totally accepted. And others, who prefer the separation of work and home, and being around people, and that’s okay too.
To me, our current arrangements of hybrid work, as you feel, is fantastic. (Working way more than we need to, just to feed the owner classes notwithstanding)
I don’t need work to be social. Sounds like a skill issue to me.
You don’t necessarily need it, but if you have a full time job that’s roughly a third of your time. Having a third of your time without social interaction causes you to need an extremely robust social life outside of work to make up for it, throwing things off balance.
I don’t think it has much to do with skill, I just wanted more balance in my life
Not to mention being in the thick of office politics.
I’m currently 100% remote, and to be honest I do sometimes miss having to spend 2-3 hours of my day getting ready/up early and going to work, spending the extra gas money, being late. Cause if we don’t go to the office, WHO WILL FUND ALL THESE CORPORATE LOANS? /s
Don’t worry, you’ll be spending plenty of time talking to humans through countless pointless meetings. Sure, it won’t be physically face-to-face, but it often isn’t physically face-to-face even when you have to go to the office anyway.
This meeting could have been not a meeting.
I think work from home should be the norm and people who oppose it are just your managers who don’t want to be obsolete, but I worked from home for 4 years from 2008-2012, before it was more common, and I basically drove myself crazy with loneliness and feeling out of the loop. This was partially due to bad circumstances personally, but after a few months of just your pyjamas you start to feel really sloppy and desperate.
I should add this was long before Zoom or any video meetings so that didn’t help.
It’s not for everyone, and I know what you’re saying but “feeling sloppy and desperate” is certainly not a universal experience. As a single anecdotal example, I’ve been working from home for over 5 years now and personally feel like I get a lot more pros than cons from it. Sure, I’m lazier with my personal hygiene and don’t bother to dress up (during the working day when it’s only me who can smell me), but I still go outside and go to events and talk to people outside of work, I just have more energy left to do that in my evenings and weekends now 🤷
Presenting yourself as an antisocial it’s the perfect recipe for being able to provide for yourself.
I mean who wouldn’t want to BE around, be attended by and work in sensitive, multiple people and teams dependent, expensive projects that provide services and goods to OTHER HUMAN BEINGS with someone that publicly states to be a misanthrope and who derives JOY from actively NOT being around others
SERIOUSLY, what’s not to like?
While moving into my current house, my family spent a lot of time at the old house prepping things while I maintained occupancy of the new house, so of course I was here alone most of the time. I do work from home. I specifically chose this house because, among other reasons, there are no neighbors near enough to encounter by accident. I don’t really go anywhere on a regular basis. As a result, most days the first time I spoke was at my morning meeting; on many occasions it was the last, too. Even better, I was having sinus issues, so until I opened my mouth I was never sure my voice would be there, let alone how it would sound. (Once or twice I did say a few test words to myself to make sure I could be heard.)
There are a lot of things I miss about those times, but I’m much happier now with my family here. I remember that, when we all came up together to buy the house, my kid had left a little rubber dinosaur on the back of one of the toilets, so I saw it every time I used the facilities. It was the first time I’d spent any significant amount of time away from my kid since they’d been born and I was stunned by how much emotion such a simple reminder of their existence elicited.
I still don’t really talk to anyone else, though.
If I could do this minus the working part, that would be greeeeaaaaat
Apparently someone is offended that I am coerced into providing my labor rather than doing so freely, and that I would rather just have that time to myself to do with as I please
yes…? of course there are downsides
