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There is no old computer only bad os.

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    17 days ago

    Except if you have an old NVIDIA card. The current kernel doesn’t support the old binary drivers anymore and the nouveau drivers are slow and buggy.

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        Yes, that’s a new card well supported by the proprietary driver. I’m talking about cards older than 5 or 10 years.

        The post specifically mentions old computers.

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            Yes, Pascal GPUs are supported by the legacy driver 470 and 580.

            The current 595 driver doesn’t support your GPU.

            Users with hardware that‘s only supported by 470, 390, or 340 have been out luck since Linux 5.18 or earlier.

            If things change enough over time, you might lose support for your card as well.

            NVIDIA Support for Pascal ends in 2028. Expect things to break two years later.

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          You don’t need the proprietary one anymore, the open source drivers from nvidia are better

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              I’ve had a good experience with the open source official ones on an Ampere generation GPU, sorry it didn’t work for yall. I should also say that they’re only available for Turing up if I recall. The other open source ones like nouveau, nova, and NVK are incomplete and for most cards offer a bad gaming experience, so if you have an older card it’s preferable to use the proprietary

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                I’ll be honest, I missed “from nvidia” in your comment. I thought you meant the “regular” open source ones. We’re both using the 590-open one, since the regular one found in driver manager was trash.

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        17 days ago

        cards from the 2000 series are supposed to be used with the newer kind of official driver, that’s supposed to be also more stable than the former one. this driver does not support cards before 2000

  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from community
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    To be fair you can 100% have a PC that’s too old and/or too low speced to run Linux with certain desktops. For example I personally wouldn’t use a PC with under 8gb of ram today if I wanted to run a modern desktop and Wayland compositors basically require (or soon will) Vulkan 1.0 support (for Nvidia that’s Kepler GK110 or later, AMD GCN 1.1 or later, and Intel Broadwell or later)

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      The thing about Linux is that you have choice. You can put Xubuntu on a laptop with a Core 2 Duo and 4GB of RAM and it will fly.

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        You can absolutely keep using older X11 desktops or WMs forever, that doesn’t mean you’re getting the same experience as everyone else on a modern Wayland desktop or WM

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          There is a world of difference between “not getting the best experience” and “the entire computer is unusable now”.

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      Kepler GPU need the 470 proprietary driver. It doesn’t work with current kernels 5.18 and newer. Even with an older kernel, I was unable to get Wayland to work.

      Nouveau works with Wayland, but it does Vulkan in software, and had several noticeable visual bugs. I also was unable to get hardware acceleration for video to work even when installing the needed binary firmware. Besides that nouveau‘s feature Matrix is bit lacking.

      Also if you have hybrid graphics in a laptop with Intel Iris and NVIDIA for example (OPTIMUS) there are additional issues to figure out.

      Other hurdles might be wifi and bluetooth chips from Broadcom for example. You might have to install additional drivers, disable powersaving, and configure other tweaks to get Bluetooth audio and wifi to work properly.

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    Windows killing Wireguard is another name in the coffin for me.

    Still need it for Playit Live and Excel VBA but that’s about it now.

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      Use WinBoat to run 2D applications like Excel. I’m not familiar with Playit Live, but it seems to be the kind of application that WinBoat works well with.