well well here we go again old friend:
sudo pacman -Syu
How bout
Why do some people just have the worst fucking ideas…and why is “some” starting to feel like “most”
Because media propaganda makes it seem as if the majority have certain views. People don’t like to be on the outside so if the media can trick people into conforming then they will try that.
happy fediverse birthday!
Oh, thanks! I hadn’t noticed actually!
Ok well I suggest Fedora Project leader get fucked. Plenty of other good distros bub.
However… ive read the associated analysis of the California bill that reads directly on legislative intent:
quoting he Cali Senate Judiciary Committee analysis : file:///home/jspaleta/Downloads/202520260AB1043_Senate%20Judiciary.pdf
Why are we listening to a person who tried to link a file directly from their downloads folder?
Also the original post that the article is referencing on the fedora forums is suggesting that we remove all networking support from baseline linux as some way to comply/circumvent the law.
I’m sorry, but I just can’t take anything said in that forum post seriously.
Whoever the fuck supports age verification should be hung!!! Fuck that shit!!
Fuck age verification, but the fact that this comment gets even a single upvote seriously worries me.
If we’re talking about the criminals who are harming children (social media companies, roblox, etc) and actively pushing to influence legislation that allows them to continue this behavior while punishing the rest of us while taking away privacy for normal people, then idk. Prison seems too generous for those scum.
I think the commenter here might be referring to regular people who are powerless and/of less than informed on the subject which I of course disavow. But if somelike like Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk never see the inside of of a prison cell, which is much more than they deserve, there is no justice in this world.
It’s the welcoming of surveillance with open arms! IF “protecting the children” is what we’re after, TRULY honestly after, then social media would be banned for anyone under the age of 18!
The fact that Zuck KNOWS this (Meta and its current format) is the problem he pushes all blame to everyone and everything else. And like IDIOTS the government listens-mostly because they’re all bought and paid for anyway. FB did studies back in 2014 (that’s right over 12 years ago) or earlier to prove it wasnt addictive, and found it to be worse than they thought so they buried it!
My guess is, before the hearing, Zuck and crew agreed this is the way to get gov off his back and also get gov MORE data and surveillance. It’s a win-win. Every obedient citizen who doesn’t know/understand technology says “OK I guess” and everyone else with half a spine and understanding… Takes a stand!!
Facebook first released for 18+ users as it was for college and you needed your school’s .edu address to open an account. To grow the userbase, it was opened up to more and more users which then lead to more and more deceptive practices to always get that YoY growth.
Meanwhile, it acts as an escape from reality as people hate their own lives, and “influencers” are the fakest ones feeding consumerism to others, because “if you do this one thing you can be good too” shit.
Personally, if you directly do anything to mislead/misguide others for your own selfish gain, you should feel awful about holding back those around you, instead of working together to fight the system! Unfortunately, right now, too many people feel inadequacies, so we’re getting to the point where we say “fuck it” and so we do anything to get ahead…
The TL;DR is: It’s no longer about connecting people, it’s about money, data, and control! Pretty much ALL social media is a cancer designed to keep users engaged to distract them from the shitty world around them as it falls apart.
In the wise words of Sam Flynn, “We need to work together, it’s the only way!” 😁
I’m not talking about the age verification, I’m talking about hanging people who support it. Y’all need to get a sense of perspective.
I know that’s what you’re talking about, and honest to God I’m being serious that it’s so offense and disgusting for anyone NOT in gov to support this!! It’s THAT fucking crazy!!
I don’t care if you’re left or right leaning. This is not a political thing at all, it’s purely bowing to the fucking overlords with money who give NO FUCKING SHITS about anyone else!
Depends on how its verified
Any form of age verification is a violation of user privacy.
if im the root user then no user on my system has privacy
It’s not about your system. It’s about every system connecting to the Internet. It’s not local age verification, it’s widespread monitoring by the government.
They said any form of age verification. I can verify the age of users on my system
Read the room.
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…which is precisely why I’m not on your system. ;)
Ok cool. Completely pointless comment
For solutions that back on actually “verifying” the age by requiring credit card or government ID, those suck.
As described, this is an administrator self describing the age, which doesn’t mean much to anyone except kids of people who apply parental controls to systems their kids have access to.
Accounts already require your “full name” but we don’t consider that “full name verification”.
This proposal seems to be in the spirit of least intrusive means to let parents opt into this stuff if they want, with no ties to identity compromising third party/state “verification”.
Question is whether this sort of solution that at least gives parents some chance will satisfy the lawmakers long term. For the wave of laws now, it seems to suffice to self attest age.
Dang, am I about to become an Arch user?
If youre not picky and want to use the default setups, arch install is so easy now. The script is very easy to follow and takes like 10 mins to install depending on your network speed. The only “hard” part during the install is connect to the internet. But iwctl takes care of that
I already got BSD on a spare laptop. Granted it was freeBSD and I think I might switch to OpenBSD since the latter’s foundation is Canadian and not US based.
But yeah if they go through with this I will be uninstalling it off my gaming machine and switching to Arch 100%. I really appreciated that line about it “not being April fools” when it was introduced in their github thread.
Theres also artix which is basically arch without systemd.
It’s a lot easier to use than one would guessed it at first. Much easier, than wrestling with getting the right cmake/gcc versions every time on Debian the moment you don’t want to use not a 2+ years old version of something.
Welp… There goes Fedora!..
As long as I have root, I’m as old as I wanna be.
Not if age verification is done by a digital signature from the smart card in your government issued ID.
sudo rm /bin/evil-age-verification-binaryOr if it’s done through systemd: git clone, remove the offending code, and compile.
I already skipped all these tedious steps: Void Linux with runit .
so you’re a few steps behind me then, i threw my computers in the trash and started a farm
Oh wait, there aren’t people chiming in to call me and others a fucking idiot and a stupid man child and all the other talking points for suggesting that the systemd merge was going to escalate?
Fascinating. I wonder where they all went. Maybe they’re on the BSD forums now, but somehow I doubt it.
Sure I can chime in here.
You did actually read the post correct? Not just the title? The original poster, Jef, is talking about implementing a Unix socket or a dbus protocol similar to what apple already has. They are literally just referencing their definition for a struct.
So no this will not be ID verification, it won’t ask for face scans, and it won’t necessarily send the data anywhere.
The article is just using the big A word as some boogeyman to generate clicks and further rile up the community.
The systemd change is benign and this is not proof of your slippery slope theory.
Edit: I swear literacy rates in the linux community must be dropping.
I read it and just like the systemd merge, this isn’t the end for this.
We can circle back when it turns into full blown identification standards though if its more comfortable for you to come to terms with the reality then.
Also, “won’t necessarily send the data anywhere” isn’t exactly comforting.
I just want to make sure that we do agree on a few things.
- Requiring actual ID verification and/or face scans is bad and cannot be effectively anonymized.
- That many of the current bills do not require ID verification or face scans. This includes the California one that the systemd merge request cites as well as the Colorado one that it mostly identical.
- The laws in their current form are poorly written and clearly misunderstand how modern general purpose computers work and are referred to.
Given that, I think we can ultimately agree that the NY, UK, Germany, and I think also the Brazil laws are bad and cannot be fixed with simple updates to language.
So let’s focus on the law’s that do not require actual verification since that is what the systemd change cites.
What issues do you have outside of that they are poorly written and ineffective or that they are a slippery slope/frog in a pot/tip of the spear?
This is not about my comfort this is about what these laws actually require rather than some imaginary law that has not even been written yet.
I figured that someone might latch onto that “necessarily” and that’s the great thing about open-source. If that distro/application/os does misuse your data then don’t use it or fork it.
Oh no more people are talking about how to implement the least possible invasive version of age verification! Now they’re referencing standards for it!
Yeah, some of us really don’t want our home PCs directly contributing to the surveillance state, and we sure as hell don’t appreciate pre-compliance to the demands of increasingly fascistic states.
Unless I’m mistaken everything being discussed here is still entirely within the context of your own system. Every date you put in is unverified and would only serve for something like parental control tools.
That would be covered by the
and we sure as hell don’t appreciate pre-compliance to the demands of increasingly fascistic states.
part.
That’s cool but we don’t want any which you seem to not understand.
That’s cool, just lie? Like there’s no verification process going on here, this is a field on your system that can be set to whatever you want which will empower parents to keep their children out of platforms like discord where they will be predated on, and can be completely ignored by users like me who do not have any reason to restrict my own system. But keep pitching a fit over this little bullshit instead of actual age verification policies that are going to require your face id, government id, etc for every platform you interface with.
EDIT: It really feels like you people just react to the headline and don’t even read the article. One of the core points of their discussion in the first place is that the entitlements oriented approach to parental controls is better and that it seems that legislation is poorly informed for going after an age-centric approach in the first place. These people aren’t the boogeyman trying to fuck over you and yours, they’re contributors trying to figure out how to make their platforms better in the face of obligate compliance.
That’s cool but we don’t want any which you seem to not understand.
Glad I ditched Fedora a while ago.
That’s not enough. Just like with systemd, you will be made to care about what the corporatist Microsoft-garglers at Red Hat do, whether you use it or not.
Is there a swastika in that image?
I didn’t see it until you pointed it out. Imo looks unintentional, just an unfortunate result of the circuit traces being arranged as they are.
Yeah, tbh a swastica is an amazing symbol, such a shame nazis made it their emblem.
