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They really are at an impasse. Do they do the right thing for the good of their constituents or do they continue to line their pockets with corporate
bribesdonations?He isn’t wrong. If they hadn’t pushed a senile 81 year old incumbent leader upon us as their candidate, in a blatant attempt to parachute an unpopular vice president into power once the 25th Amendment had to inevitably be invoked, then we would never have had a second Trump term.
Biden should never have ran for a second term, and allowed time for the Democrats to field a decent candidate for the White House. The fact that Harris literally lost to somebody who tried to stir up an insurrection against Congress four years ago says it all.
Harris didn’t lose. Trump didn’t win. They stole the election through every single means available. There is clear data that shows they tried it in 2020, and failed. They perfected it in 2024. “If I win you’ll never need to vote again.” “Elon knows sic. [everything] about the machines, he’ll make sure we win.”
Voting won’t save us now. Self defense and community defense are all we have left. The system has been stolen by the ultra rich, and they are gleefully enacting as much violence against us all as they want, because they “know” they don’t have to listen to us anymore.
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta
First and last links are the data. The middle links are for us stupid people that need to be told how to read the data in the last link.
How do you complain about an old man in power while asking for Bernie? As a non American I don’t comprehend this
He is the singular exception to all of our complaints about age, although we do still complain about his age. He gets a pass because he’s been doing the work for decades.
Translation: ‘Yes, but this doesn’t count because fuck you.’
Use aoc as an example, pass the torch, stop counting on ancient fossils to save you, that’s the republican platform.
No one is asking for Bernie as president anymore-- he’s clearly too old. But we like his speeches and party leadership.
Because they don’t want solutions, they want to complain.
Bernie is a whole lot more compos mentis than Biden ever was.
The right time to elect him would’ve been 2016…
Andrew Schulz
You might not know the name. But I bet you recognize what Kendrick said about him:
Don’t let no white comedian talk about no Black woman, that’s law
I know propaganda work for them, and fuck whoever that’s close to them
But Bernie’s always went to where all the earballs are, he’s just trying to get the message out.
And I think it’s important to point out by “party” Bernie is talking about elected politicians in leadership positions, not the DNC.
Sanders echoed his woes, venting that even after losing the 2024 election, his colleagues still “won’t listen” to him about how to appeal to voters.
Also:
Singh interjected with another question: “But could we not also say, if there hasn’t been a fair primary for the Democrats since 2008, are they not also a threat to democracy?”
“Fair enough,” Sanders answered. “I’m not gonna argue with that.”
First off, the headline wasn’t Bernie’s words, he was just moving on from something a rightwing podcaster had said.
2008 wasn’t a fair primary, Obama just won in spite of it. The DNC being biased against him not only in the primary but the general is why Obama didn’t appoint a DNC chair, so the neoliberals maintained their death grip on the DNC till just a few months ago.
But Obama refusing to nominate a chair was probably his biggest mistake, one we’re still paying for.
Also important to note that Bernie defends voting for Democrats in this interview.
“Because it’s easy to say,” said Sanders. “But ‘burning it down’ means children will not have food to eat. The schools will deteriorate. People will not have healthcare. I’m an elected official. I’ve got to represent the people. I can’t turn my back on them.”
Like Nina Turner said…
“It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing,’” about the choice between Biden and Trump. “It’s still shit.”
I mean, one was a putrid diarrhea shit and the other was a high fiber diet log tho
Yeah, had that part in to begin with but figured it was already too long for people to read all of it.
I’m not gonna watch the interview because I have more issues with Schulz than just what Kendrick was talking about.
But this wasn’t just twisting Bernie’s words like normal, there’s a mountain of difference between “I agree” and “I’m not going to argue that”.
Like, if trump got life imprisonment for killing Santa, I’m not gonna argue with it, but that’s not the same as agreeing he did it.
Nothing like clickbait headlines using a right-wing podcaster to put words in Bernie’s mouth.
Oh, Return2Ozma? Who would’ve guessed.
I didn’t read the article or listen to podcast. Just came to say 2 party system doesn’t work. Thank you. Cheers.
Worked pretty well for the capitalists and fascists.
well hey used to it, several red states passed laws banning rank choice voting
The episode opened with Schulz introducing Sanders as having been “mocked, sidelined, and betrayed—and that’s just by his own party,”
Well that’s the thing, the Democrats aren’t “his own party”. Sanders is totally OK with being an Independent right up until it comes time to run for President.
The DNC saw/see him as an outsider, not a Democrat, which is also a fair statement.
That doesn’t make his statement incorrect. They view him as an outsider because both the Democrats and Republicans are right wing parties and he isn’t right wing.
the dems are center right, and the republicans are far right.
Once again Bernie is spitting facts. At this point the DNC is just a make a wish party for the elderly. They dont actually care about anything as long as it doesn’t prevent them from getting more money. I sincerely hope the party fails and we get something better in it’s place but knowing our luck these ass clowns will continue to fail upward.
He’s absolutely right with this current Democratic party and it’s shitty leadership.
Ew is this more ‘but both sides’ crap?
Criticizing the DNC for their repeated, deliberate failings, or the consequences thereof, is not “both-siding”. The lesser evil doesn’t get a pass for being lesser, especially when it could be doing much, much more to combat the obvious greater evil, but chooses not to.
This isn’t a problem with the dems.
This is a problem with voters who fucked this up and then pathetically blame things that aren’t themselves. Dems can’t bail you out if you don’t vote them to fix it. So blaming them now is futile.
Grow the fuck in and Own your fuck up.
Yeah a little too late Bernie. You’ll tell us to vote for Gavin Newsom/Liz Cheney 2028 as well. The modern Dem party is an enrichment cult.
And he’d be right to, if the alternative is MAGA.
But this is the buf problem un US politics. Of course you should vote against Trump, and of course even the most questionable Democrat is preferable to Trump. But with only two options, that seems to have lead the Democrats to think they don’t even have to try anymore. They keep drifting further to the right, instead of running a credible opposition.
The US desperately needs more options, but the system is rigged to allow only two credible parties. To change, there are only two options: seize control of the Democratic Party, primary every lackluster candidate, until the DNC can’t ignore that people demand better. Or start a new grassroots party, but it would have to be universally seen as the only way to get change, it needs to be massively funded to take on the machines of the other two parties, and convince the American voter that they really can win in this system that’s rigged against the people.
Primarying is certainly the more likely option, but you need to do it everywhere.
Bernie, a notorious independent.
isn’t this Ben Shaprio newspaper?
