Article about an experiment from Brisbane, Australia.

  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    21 days ago

    Considering it was founded, like, 2000 years ago, that isn’t really surprising. Turns out, being a pedestrian in a city which was established in a millennium when being a pedestrian was the norm is quite easy compared to the same effort in much more recent municipalities. Have you ever really paid attention to the plot of Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

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      Spotted the American.

      You have very little understanding about city development and planning. Otherwise you’d know that most of the transport corridors that are in use today were started in the Industrialisation period when trams were introduced.

      A city with millions of inhabitants can’t be explained by looking at the small population in the centre.

      Vienna has an amazingly good and inexpensive public transport system and quite good bike routes combined with fairly inexpensive housing due to good city governance over several decades (social democratic party by and large).

      The difference between most North American and European cities in terms of availabke transport choices is not what happened hundreds of years ago, but what city planners did in the post war period (50s to 70s).

      It’s not too late however, if you look at the incredible progress Paris had in the past 5 years.

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        Vienna is a dream for public transit. Didn’t get to use the cycle routes but it seemed I was never far away from any transit. Beautiful city to boot.

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        The framework was still established long before cars, which was then easier to expand upon. Absolutely governance has a huge effect, but more modern cities were developed with cars in mind, with endless suburban sprawl. It’s far easier to implement public transportation in places that were originally built around walkable city centers.

        Additionally, places that weren’t bombed to hell in WWII didn’t have the opportunity to redesign for public transit mid-century. They grew with car-centric infrastructure and never reset. I’m not saying we shouldn’t develop public transit, we absolutely should, I’m just saying it’s harder to implement with existing infrastructure and layout that spread everything out over dozens of miles.

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      Vienna is very walkable but also really big. The answer is, mostly, public transport, a lot of it and cheap. Public transport costs ~ 400€ per year if you have the annual pass for Vienna (you can use all public transport). Also at the moment a build out of bike lanes makes a combination of bike/public transport very interesting for big parts of the city.

      P.s. Can’t really remember the plot if Rodger Rabbit.

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        But you forget, that we’re living in forest cities with exploding trees!

        That this idiot even got a single vote is beyond me…but well, who am I to talk with Kickl promoting the same kind of xenophobia.
        But I’m getting a bit off topic, although all those conversatives world wide seem to love to be stuck in their cars in traffic jams…

    • toad@sh.itjust.worksBanned
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      Yes we get it it colonists living on stolen land have all the room in the world to be able to vroemvroem their fatass everywhere