• nightlily@leminal.space
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      28 days ago

      Unless you’re a Berliner, but then you have to wonder why your baked goods are talking, and why they insist on being called Pfannkuchen instead.

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          27 days ago

          That’s like saying F is close to P

          Korean for example doesn’t have an F sound, a lot of loanwords that have an F sound use P instead, France turns into Prangseu and coffee to copy.

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          27 days ago

          In Dutch, a T is sometimes pronounced S

          Politie (police) is pronounced polisie for example

          In the word politiek (politics) it remains a T sound

          Democratie -> democrasie

          Etcetera

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          27 days ago

          That’s not a valid comparison at all, and it’s not pedantic to point that out no matter how preemptively you claim that it is.

          Bilapial ≠ lapiodental! It’s not that hard to understand.

          The entire similarity between K and the German Ch is based on them both being velar (and unvoiced). You’re crafting a strawman by focusing on the “fricative and plosive” manner while ignoring that the sound is made at the same place.

          S and T are almost a better comparison because they’re both technically alveolar, but that ignores the fact that S has a dental component. Try making a T sound and then an S sound without moving your teeth. It won’t work.