The Government says it will not rejoin the customs union or single market, but senior figures have been pushing for closer ties with the EU
  • MisterD@lemmy.caEnglish
    41·
    17 days ago

    FYI: the UK can rejoin the EU but will never get the sweetheart deal they had when they Brexited

    • Random Dent@lemmy.mlEnglish
      16·
      16 days ago

      Which I think is fair TBH. We had a sweet deal, but we fucked it up by being idiots. No reason to give us special treatment, dumb actions have consequences.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      17 days ago

      why would EU entertain Breturn? Even if they did allow this, UK would just exit again in a few years.

        • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          16 days ago

          Then why did they leave? I thought Brussels was stealing all the money, and if UK goes back, what will happen to the 200 million a year the NHS gets?

          Buses dont lie.

          • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.caEnglish
            8·
            16 days ago

            You need to accept the fact that even idiots can realize they were lied to now and then. It seems like enough British idiots noticed in this case.

          • hitmyspot@aussie.zoneEnglish
            3·
            16 days ago

            It might cost time and money to fix but the end result can be beautiful. Getting there can also have purpose beyond the end result.

            Sure it already was nice and functional, but if it’s now broken, you either fix it or have a broken vase.

  • then_three_more@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    17 days ago

    Most of the people who voted for it are either dead or pretending that voted remain now. Political sentiment has definitely shifted towards rejoin at some point.

    Are we ready for the fight yet though? Probably not. But we can definitely have closer and closer alignment to smooth the way

    • Pip@feddit.orgEnglish
      3·
      16 days ago

      Avoiding the fight sounds like a bad idea. It’s great that public sentiment has shifted!

      • hitmyspot@aussie.zoneEnglish
        2·
        16 days ago

        Exactly, especially when the brexit side won by using misinformation and discrediting experts (without any facts, of course). Now people can see through their lies with their own experience.

        They can’t claim the money goes the the NHS. The NHS is less funded now. They can’t claim Britain is stronger alone. They early aren’t. They can’t pretend they will make better deals elsewhere. That didn’t pan out and America is not a reliable ally. Barely an ally at this point. They can’t complain about eu decided standards, as they have now discovered that they still need to comply. They can’t complain about immigration as that didn’t stop, by necessity, it just shifted to different nationalities, usually with less recognised training and skills.

      • then_three_more@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        16 days ago

        Soon I think, Trump and his mentalness is hopefully pushing more and more people to the realisation that we need to be close politically, militarily and economically to our European neighbours, rather than the Yanks.

        Hopefully it’ll be something at the next election, it would be a very good way for Labour or others to set themselves against Reform.

  • xav@programming.devEnglish
    3·
    16 days ago

    They don’t really want it. As always they want the benefits but don’t want to participate financially and socially.

    • d00ery@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      16 days ago

      Brexit vote was 52% for leave. Intelligence is a bell curve…

      Anyone with any sense knew leaving a free trade agreement with our biggest trading partners, and the ability to influence the rules on that trade and standards, was a fucking stupid idea. Unfortunately it’s easy to prey on stupid people.

      Also, I’d argue that the UK and French/German culture and values are generally a lot closer than the rest of the wider world - we’re neighbours and have a lot of shared language and history.