• SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    I think I know what OOP means here. Films that people only like because they’re “good movies.”

    I think the Avatar films fall into this category, as do most of the “Oscar bait” movies.

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        2 months ago

        You know how some restaraunts have a reputation for serving “good food” (I.e. gourmet food), but just because it’s fancier food it doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll actually like it more?

        So, what are some foods that people only like because they’re fancy? (I’d argue caviar is one)

        Same idea, but for movies. What are some movies that people only like because they’re seen as being “good movies”?

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          I feel like this is most of shakespears work. Having read a lot of it, i was deeply unimpressed. I found it grueling to work through any of his pieces. And yet theyre universally beloved. Pretty sure its just because everyones teacher told them the book was good.

          Its weird though, to kill a mockingbird was actually good, and yet it doesnt recieve nearly as much fanfare as something like hamlet or romeo & juliet. Feels like people just like shakespear because everyone else likes shakespear.

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            Shakespeare’s collective works span virtually every genre and introduce virtually every character archetype that is still used in modern literature and media. His works are brimming with word play, which often has triple or quadruple meaning; often dramatic, philosophical, and comedic at the same time. He was so prolific and such a good writer that there are conspiracy theories that he was actually several different playwrights sharing the same pen name.

            Granted it’s not as easy to appreciate his works today because of how the English language has drifted over the last 500 years, but what other work of literature from 500 years ago can you even point to as being popular today in its original form?

            If you want to give Shakespeare a fair shake from the literary appreciation point of view, try reading an annotated copy of his works that provide context and translate the less familiar turns of phrase. It probably won’t make you enjoy reading his works, but it should at least help you understand why he’s so revered.

            In terms of actually enjoying Shakespeare, well… He was a playwright, not a novelist! His works are meant to be seen on a stage. There are some really good performers out there whose emotivity can help bridge the language gap. Some troupes also tweak the dialog to make it more accessible to a modem audience, but I don’t generally like that because they tend to lose the puns or at least diminish the layers or the poetry.

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    2 months ago

    The new Star Trek show is being called competency porn, which kind of fits this description. Although that’s been Star Trek for a long time. I think folks are upset they’re targeting youth with the last couple series… which, the average ST fan now being 92 years old, doesn’t exactly shock me.

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      2 months ago

      Starfleet Academy seems like it’s trying to be Harry Potter/Hogwarts. Star Trek Discovery has so much forced drama. Many of the characters are super annoying and in both shows I feel like a sense of professionalism is completely lost. Sure Starfleet isn’t exactly a military organization, but it’s pretty damn close and I just can’t take those shows seriously. I barely made it through Discovery. It was really hard watch. Picard and Strange New Worlds were just OK.

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          I agree. I enjoyed it for what it was. Some characters were kind of annoying too. I started it immediately after finishing Discovery and it was a very welcome change. I still prefer the older shows though.