• ulterno@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      6 months ago

      Uber/Lyft

      Airbnb

      Apart from the recently added surge pricing, what else is illegal about these 2?

      • lime!@feddit.nu
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        6 months ago

        dependent on where you are, they are textbook skirting the law. uber got crushed when they launched in sweden because taxi drivers need to do basically the same training as bus drivers. it’s an extra letter on your license, with all that entails of age limits, theory and practical tests, x amount of time driven a year etc.

        nowadays ubers in sweden are just taxis, which hilariously means that they by law have to have a price list on the cars. which basically kneecaps their entire business model.

    • hddsx@lemmy.ca
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      6 months ago

      Because you have 2/4 general terms:

      1. Rideshare
      2. Short term rentals
      3. Crypto
      4. LLM
      • kevincox@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        “Rideshare” is also the least accurate term used to dodge regulations. It is just a taxi/cab. You are paying someone to get you from one place to another. They aren’t sharing their ride, they were never going where you are going before you told them to.

        • hddsx@lemmy.ca
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          6 months ago

          Taxis/cabs are legal. Also, perhaps because of age, I tend to view taxis and cabs as phone numbers you call for a car to show up (or go to a taxi stand), whereas I see rideshare as reserve via an app.

          I think ride share really just means a vehicle that is used not solely for commercial purposes

          • kevincox@lemmy.ml
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            6 months ago

            They are legal if you follow the regulations. The problem with the “rideshare” companies is that they don’t. We should just call them “unregulated taxis” rather than pretending that they are a different service. I think just about every taxi company these days is on some app or another (often the same that call unregulated cabs in countries that actually got their shit together and banned the unregulated ones).

            • Sabrinamycarpet@sh.itjust.works
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              6 months ago

              I think just about every taxi company these days is on some app or another (often the same that call unregulated cabs in countries that actually got their shit together and banned the unregulated ones).

              I’d like to point out this probably would have taken another 10-15 years to achieve had it not been for the disruption of said ridesharing apps.

              • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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                6 months ago

                Just because there’s a inconvenience for consumers doesn’t mean you make workers suffer instead of fixing the problem.

    • acantharea@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 months ago

      Wait till you learn about their latest innovation!

      Exploiting individuals from other countries to bypass labor laws in the country of business operation via distributed outsourcing. Why even pay minimum wage in the US?

  • Avicenna@programming.dev
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    6 months ago

    I personally hate the “thanks to AI you now can speak to your dead relatives” ones. Especially those ones which try to spin it like a personal story for the developer of the app. Oh shut up, you would sell your own mother for money. And also you are too late to jump on that bandwagon so get lost, we have enough of you leeches.

  • brewery@feddit.uk
    2·
    6 months ago

    How about

    • reinventing trains but worse
    • rocketing amount of space launches filling up junk
    • we deliver everything but once we take over it’ll all be crap rip off products (for slave wages)
    • we deliver any food by people who can’t drive (for slave wages)
    • we’ll create algorithms to enforce society divisions and hurt mental health of children
    • we’ll take over a popular platform and make it even more disgusting and fascist
      • kevincox@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        Nah it’s worse. Bitcoin actually has legitimate uses. (Yes, they are a minority of actual usage, but they exist.) NFTs are only useful for speculation, gambling and money laundering.

        • lorty@lemmy.ml
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          6 months ago

          Bitcoin’s only legitimate use cases are a worse, slower and more expensive eletronic money transfer. In other words, there aren’t any.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 months ago

      Just because the legal system is bad doesn’t make an illegal system better. You fix the legal problem.

      "I can’t find a cab doesn’t mean the solution is unregulated gig workers.
      “Don’t worry if an independent contractor rapes you, just give him 1 star and the free market will fix the problem.”

      Think of how much money Starbucks would save if they made their employees provide their own coffee machines, beans and paper cups. That’s where it’s going.

      • CoryCoolguy@lemmy.myserv.one
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        6 months ago

        “Don’t worry if an independent contractor rapes you, just give him 1 star and the free market will fix the problem.”

        Would love to hear other perspectives but I personally feel much safer in an Uber where I know the entire ride is being tracked by a corporation that won’t risk its reputation to retain a potentially creepy driver.

        • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          It’s the other way around. An employer is legally responsible for an employee’s actions while working. Uber says, “They’re not employees, they just use our app.” So Uber has no incentive to carefully vet drivers. It’s only after an Uber driver rapes someone that they kick them off their system.

    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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      6 months ago

      I can’t help but feel like all of this is propaganda.

      Like what’s with people all of a sudden defending Cab Companies, Hotel Chains, the Central Bank (or your countries equivalent), or Copyright law.

      People rightly complained about all these things but now actually those are all somehow good

        • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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          6 months ago

          The replacements aren’t actually worse though.

          Using Uber/Lyft is far easier and more convenient for all parties involved. (Not saying that equates to morally good though)

          Using AirBNB for people to vacation in or whatever is a much better experience potentially for a tenant then the sub-par standards of hotels.

          Cryptocurreny provides freedom of exchange in a digital way while still having an overall ledger to prevent fraud. (Doesn’t stop people from getting scammed but the same is true for cash)

          Copyright laws basically always majorly benefit the corporation who owns it rather then an individual who actually created the thing. I also was a pirate in my younger years and in general believe information should be free and peoples needs should be met so they don’t have to necessarily try to profit off what should be an artistic expression.

          I don’t think AI will actually replace creativity, some will use it to churn out garbage but that was already true for existing tools for whatever art form you might prefer. A simple example is electronic music, a lot of musicians look down on electronic music artists because it’s not “real music”.

          Edit: Fundamentally the issue/complaints from many are the user experience AND the problems with the corporations doing shitty corp stuff. I feel zero empathy for the prior companies that didn’t innovate at all and let their monopoly power print them money at the expense of the customer via corporate lobbying and such, however I’m under no illusion that the replacements are any better aside from their user experience lmao.

          • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            while still having an overall ledger to prevent fraud.

            That’s not crypto.

            If you get scammed using an old fashioned credit card, the credit card company yoinks your money back for you from the scammer.

            If you transfer crypto it’s gone.

            • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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              6 months ago

              I literally said it doesn’t prevent scamming just like cash. Did people abhor cash because if you got scammed you couldn’t just get it back by asking the bank? (Which also is not really the only thing that can happen btw, sometimes banks just take the hit if it’s already been withdrawn or similar and choose to make you whole or not) My father had his bank account drained twice because of Zelle malware and the bank nearly didn’t give him his money back the second time.

              The overall supply of most crypto is known, and unless it’s a privacy chain transactions are generally visible on the network rather then being completely hidden from view like other currencies.

              • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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                6 months ago

                I literally said it doesn’t prevent scamming just like cash.

                You claimed crypto is immune to fraud.

                I then showed how old fashion credit card is better. I didn’t say cash.

                My father had his bank account drained twice

                My nephew lost all his crypto to malware.

                Your father’s bank “nearly” didn’t refund but actually did. So you proved that banks provide safety. Credit cards provide even stronger safety between you and businesses. My nephew’s crypto was gone with absolutely no recourse.

                The overall supply of most crypto is known

                That has absolutely nothing to do with fraud or losing your crypto to malware.

                • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
                  0·
                  6 months ago

                  So I consider fraud and scamming to be a bit different, but maybe I’m just being pedantic or misusing the word.

                  Moreso what I meant was things like literally printing money isn’t possible outside of how the coin functions (assuming no bugs lol) and the global supply and such are known values that can be backed up.

                  Compare that to the opaqueness of the US banking system where things like bank runs can and do happen because money is essentially duplicated via things like loans backed only by promises rather then literally tied into the functionality of the currency itself.

                  On the bank point, there’s no reason an authority of sorts couldn’t do the same thing with crypto, they had to take the hit for the lost money as it was already gone, just like what can happen with crypto. I’m sorry your nephew lost his funds due to malware, however I’d argue they likely didn’t take proper protections. For example we know things like card skimmers exist and you have to take actions to prevent those things from impacting you as well.

                  On your last point, hopefully I explained a bit more why, to me, it does relate to fraud, but yes it doesn’t have anything to do with malware, nor did I claim it did.

                  But going back to the malware point, that’s no different from getting mugged and losing your life savings because you kept all your cash on you. It sucks to get mugged but it’s “common sense” not to carry all of your cash on you at a time, while it’s not yet common sense for people who hardly understand the idea of crypto as to how they can/should secure their keys or distribute across multiple wallets potentially to guard against that.

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
    1·
    6 months ago

    Where’s “video games that you never actually own, but at least you pay to beat them”?

    Where’s “removal of a common phone feature, because if you don’t buy a $528 external DAC and a $9164 planar headphones, you’ll be okay with a pair of raycons”?

    • ozymandias@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      6 months ago

      well now we can add on: “illegal gambling on literally everything”
      and “1984 level surveillance being sold to the government instead of being done by them directly so somehow legal”
      … maybe something about giant ai networks of murder robots waging war?
      fuck why did we have to get the worst cyberpunk sci-fi future….