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      The only problem is the years of indoctrination which stand behind such laws. Laws may not be factual or even morally right, but it doesnt disqualify them - and that’s by design.

      The ruling class are basically puppeteers, moulding the public into a shape they seem as “appropriate”. The result is the proletariat attacking its own people just because the “law says so, therefore it must be right”.

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      This sounds cool, but I don’t think it’s actually true. For example: most of our drug laws are unjust, but I don’t think it’s moral to disobey them. It’s not immoral either. Morality just doesn’t play a part.

      It is moral to disobey them when they force an action that is immoral.

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    Drugs are often illegal.

    Some legal substances like alcohol are “harder” drugs than many illegal ones like cannabis.

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      Such laws have no sense when you actually think about it. Such illogical reasonings exist within all law sectors, it is an expertly crafted story made to indoctrinate. Drugs may be an example, but laws which silently encourage mysoginy, racism and ageism also exist, and must be brought to light.

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        Thats the trick. They make laws about “safety” that actually target minorities.

        Cannabis ws used widly in medicine all the way up until the early 20th century. When they made cannabis illegal, it was mostly used by latino and “black” communities. Thats why they started calling it marijuana. It made it sound exotic and hispanic. Any “whites” that joined them were seen as less than and charged too, though to an often lesser extent. Since it was mostly effecting minorities, hippies, and “race traitors”, main stream america was fine with it.

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    Which is why RuleOfLegalism needs to be extinguished, & RuleOfJustLaw needs to be made unbreakable.

    This principle has been fought-over since before biblical times.

    It hasn’t been won by RuleOfJustLaw yet.

    but if humankind’s going to survive The Great Filter, these next 6 decades, then it’s going to need to.

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    • BlueFootedPetey@sh.itjust.works
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      You sure? No I dont have citations but I think it was legal. Maybe it wasnt before they started…

      Not trying to argue you down, just curious.

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        It was illegal. The German criminal code has two sections for murder, § 211 Mord (the more severe one) and § 212 Totschlag (the less severe one).

        In the original version from 1870, Mord was killing a human being with deliberation (“mit Überlegung”) and Totschlag was any other intentional killing of a human being.

        In 1941, notably after it had been pointed out that what they were doing was Mord (Wikipedia), the National Socialists changed the law so that § 211 only applied under specific aggravating circumstances (e.g. cruelty or base motives).

        That remains unchanged in the current version (English translation), except for the sentences.

        Those murders are still prosecuted today. For example, in 2022 a former secretary at a concentration camp was sentenced to two years on probation for assistance to murder (Mord) in 10,505 cases (the court applied juvenile criminal law since she was only 18 and 19 years old at the time).

      • punkisundead [they/them]@slrpnk.net
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        On Reddit there should be multiple posts about this in r/AskHistorians. Thats where remember reading about this in detail. If you have trouble finding any of those threads, I can try to link a few.