• wuffah@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    70
    ·
    2 months ago

    Friendly reminder that the AI is built and controlled by billionaires who are the ones using it to kill us.

    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      36
      ·
      2 months ago

      this is the fucking root of every fucking “will technology kill us?!” statement.

      The tech won’t do shit, the goddamn assholes owning it will.

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      2 months ago

      Mostly the AIs are built and controlled by public companies. Anthropic’s ownership is secret, but about 10% is owned by Google, and about 10% by Amazon. For OpenAI, 1/4 is owned by Microsoft, 1/4 is owned by their non-profit arm in some bullshit scheme, 1/4 is the employees (presumably including CEO, etc), and the remaining bits are early investors. Google, Microsoft, Amazon, nVidia, Oracle, and other public companies are owned by regular investors, pension funds, investment banks, etc.

      Billionaires are part of the problem, but so are pension funds, investment banks, and regular investors who own a bit of stock in their 401(k)s.

      This isn’t billionaires using their private money on private projects to fuck up the world like some kind of mad Bond villain. They’re not breaking any laws. They’re not doing anything in secret. They’re not doing it in order to kill people, or to try to take over the world.

      This is the whole system where these companies are following the laws and trying to generate profits for their investors. Killing all the billionaires would be easy and satisfying, but it wouldn’t fix the problem, because the problem is a systemic one.

      If it were Doctor Evil hiding in a cave, working on a doomsday machine, you’d need to send in Austin Powers to stop him. When it’s regular public companies doing it, you can stop it by just changing a law. The US system is so fucked up that it may be impossible to do that. But, in say France it’s probably much more likely that someone can just pass a simple law saying “you can’t do that”.

      • wuffah@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        2 months ago

        Thanks for tempering my cynicism with facts and logic, but I’m still angry for some reason.

        • merc@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          2 months ago

          You should be. The system sucks. Even though it’s not Doctor Evil in a cave, it sucks that American oligarchs have the power they do. Even before Trump they were using their money to get people elected and lobby them to bend the laws in their favour. And now, with Trump, they’re just outright flattering and bribing him and getting what they want without even needing to hide them. But, they’re also symptoms of a problem. The values of the US are fucked up and this is really just a reflection of those values.

  • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    30
    ·
    2 months ago

    AI isn’t killing us. Half a dozen billionaires are.
    Actually scratch that, we’re killing ourselves.
    Cause half a dozen people could be “convinced” to stop very easily, if everyone stopped supporting and protecting them.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      That and many other simple laws. I’ve been saying these DCs are a local government problem. Nearly every one of these building permits could be denied by city and county goverments.

  • Xerxos@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    2 months ago

    AI systems themselves don’t inherently require large amounts of water. The water use comes from data center cooling design choices. Closed-loop liquid cooling systems can minimize water consumption, and large bodies of water like lakes, rivers, or the sea can serve as effective heat sinks.

    So, high water usage is not a technical necessity of AI. It’s just cheaper and easier to ignore mother nature. Especially when you are in a race against the other AI companies.

    If the US had not given up on saving the climate, laws for environmental protection could have helped.

  • abbadon420@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    2 months ago

    Its not gonna steal our water until we die. AI is still just a tool. Billionaires are gonna use it to poison our minds so that we’ll fight amongst ourselves until the last of us is dead.

  • Mothra@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    2 months ago

    I thought AI would eventually make every profession based on thinking and creativity redundant or obsolete, so if you ask me we’ll die of depression caused by AI. But maybe you are right and we die of dehydration first.

  • DandomRude@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    That’s true, but this misunderstanding may be due to the fact that what is sold as AI today is by no means what movies like Terminator are about.