And every non-voter who’s “high road” they dichtomously make fun of Obama for has allowed more genocide is what, better? The choices were some genocide or more genocide, avoiding the choice is just a choice for more genocide. Trolley on way to kill 5 people do you pull the lever to kill 1 or don’t pull the lever and let it kill 5. Unsurprising that people will blame you for not pulling the lever and you’re upset that people did try and pull the lever.
Yes but they should probably blame the guy that tied people to the track in the first place. I think most see it as scapegoating. Politicians dictate their own policies and you have to be very vocal about the ones that suck to be heard over the corporate money. Blaming voters gets you zilch in terms of change.
I’m going to blame the guy who tied six people to the tracks as well as the guy that didn’t pull the lever. I’m going to blame the guy who tied them to the tracks a lot more, but I can blame both.
You mean some folks are okay with more genocide, as long as they pretend not doing the bare minimum to reduce the account of genocide absolves them of responsibility.
Yeah, fuck me for thinking vote for the lesser evil and work towards better rather than let the greater evil win and then??? How dare I desire not to worry about gestapo throwing me in a hole for my skin color while I fight for better. Instead of fighting for better im just fighting to survive. Fucks sake.
Yeah, fuck me for thinking vote for the lesser evil and work towards better
Yeah. Fuck you for that. Thinking like that blew the fucking election and handed the country to fascists. Thats what we’re saying. Accepting or advocating for lesser evil loses elections time and again. If you were advocating for that approach in 2023/4, the fascism is on you.
Its the entire point we’ve been making since 2023.
Reminder that there are more then two choices on every ballot in every county. If you don’t bother using them because you really think “your team” should win, then you don’t really have any business participating in democracy.
Sure, that sounds good to say in theory, but I’m sure you’re aware that a First Past the Post voting system kinda makes a third party effectively a wasted vote. Normally I’d support a third party absolutely, but in the last election, a vote that wasn’t for Dems was, unfortunately, a vote for Trump and I’m having a hard time believing you’re actually so dense as to not understand that
You will never get to vote for change if you always accept what you are given. Every single election since I started paying attention to politics has been “the most important election in my lifetime.” So with your thinking there is never a time to vote for your values, only the values Capitalists have enshrined in both candidates by choosing which candidates of both parties are “electable.”
Thanks for making assumptions about my beliefs, especially when I specified I would support a third party normally, but critical thinking does seem to be your weak point.
Dems are evil, Republicans are also evil, but damn, one of the two choices wasn’t going to go full mask off and start speedrunning Hitler’s playbook and you damn well know that.
Lesser evil never leads towards better, it leads to worse. A small acceptable amount of evil allows for a larger evil the next time. 50+ years if that shit and here we are
Small, acceptable amounts of evil allows for a larger amount of evil the next time. If you compound that over decades, you have our current situation. You can’t vote your way out of our current situation.
Less evil creates more evil. Less evil is like taking a small amount of poison, finding that didn’t kill you so you decide a slighter larger amount is worth the risk. When they doesnt kill you, you risk a slightly larger dose.
Did you ignore everything I said? Nobody is saying “less evil is fine, let’s go for more evil”. Well, nobody who voted against Trump anyway.
Let’s try your analogy again: you were presented with a glass full of poison, and a glass half full of poison, and told you had to choose one to drink. If you did not choose the choice would be made for you.
Instead of choosing the glass half full then trying to find some way to reduce and mitigate the damage, people said “there’s no such thing as a lesser poison” and drank the full glass.
And every non-voter who’s “high road” they dichtomously make fun of Obama for has allowed more genocide is what, better? The choices were some genocide or more genocide, avoiding the choice is just a choice for more genocide. Trolley on way to kill 5 people do you pull the lever to kill 1 or don’t pull the lever and let it kill 5. Unsurprising that people will blame you for not pulling the lever and you’re upset that people did try and pull the lever.
Yes but they should probably blame the guy that tied people to the track in the first place. I think most see it as scapegoating. Politicians dictate their own policies and you have to be very vocal about the ones that suck to be heard over the corporate money. Blaming voters gets you zilch in terms of change.
I’m going to blame the guy who tied six people to the tracks as well as the guy that didn’t pull the lever. I’m going to blame the guy who tied them to the tracks a lot more, but I can blame both.
I disagree. I don’t think we should support genocide at all, full stop, period. But I guess some folks are okay with a little genocide, as a treat
You mean some folks are okay with more genocide, as long as they pretend not doing the bare minimum to reduce the account of genocide absolves them of responsibility.
You are litterally doing the thing that handed the country to fascists: you are a fascist enabler.
If you continue to blame voters instead of those in power, you are supporting fascism, and we should ALL collectively recognize you as a fascist.
Yeah, fuck me for thinking vote for the lesser evil and work towards better rather than let the greater evil win and then??? How dare I desire not to worry about gestapo throwing me in a hole for my skin color while I fight for better. Instead of fighting for better im just fighting to survive. Fucks sake.
Yeah. Fuck you for that. Thinking like that blew the fucking election and handed the country to fascists. Thats what we’re saying. Accepting or advocating for lesser evil loses elections time and again. If you were advocating for that approach in 2023/4, the fascism is on you.
Its the entire point we’ve been making since 2023.
Reminder that there are more then two choices on every ballot in every county. If you don’t bother using them because you really think “your team” should win, then you don’t really have any business participating in democracy.
Sure, that sounds good to say in theory, but I’m sure you’re aware that a First Past the Post voting system kinda makes a third party effectively a wasted vote. Normally I’d support a third party absolutely, but in the last election, a vote that wasn’t for Dems was, unfortunately, a vote for Trump and I’m having a hard time believing you’re actually so dense as to not understand that
You will never get to vote for change if you always accept what you are given. Every single election since I started paying attention to politics has been “the most important election in my lifetime.” So with your thinking there is never a time to vote for your values, only the values Capitalists have enshrined in both candidates by choosing which candidates of both parties are “electable.”
Thanks for making assumptions about my beliefs, especially when I specified I would support a third party normally, but critical thinking does seem to be your weak point.
Dems are evil, Republicans are also evil, but damn, one of the two choices wasn’t going to go full mask off and start speedrunning Hitler’s playbook and you damn well know that.
“normally” like what year? What year in your entire voting life have you actually voted third-party on a national level?
Lesser evil never leads towards better, it leads to worse. A small acceptable amount of evil allows for a larger evil the next time. 50+ years if that shit and here we are
Even more so with a greater evil.
Nobody is saying “settle for the lesser evil”. They are saying it’s easier to fight for progress against the lesser evil than the greater evil.
Small, acceptable amounts of evil allows for a larger amount of evil the next time. If you compound that over decades, you have our current situation. You can’t vote your way out of our current situation.
Nobody said “acceptable”. Moving from “more evil” to “less evil” is how you make progress towards “no evil”.
Less evil creates more evil. Less evil is like taking a small amount of poison, finding that didn’t kill you so you decide a slighter larger amount is worth the risk. When they doesnt kill you, you risk a slightly larger dose.
Did you ignore everything I said? Nobody is saying “less evil is fine, let’s go for more evil”. Well, nobody who voted against Trump anyway.
Let’s try your analogy again: you were presented with a glass full of poison, and a glass half full of poison, and told you had to choose one to drink. If you did not choose the choice would be made for you.
Instead of choosing the glass half full then trying to find some way to reduce and mitigate the damage, people said “there’s no such thing as a lesser poison” and drank the full glass.