• vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    I feel like you should probably do this study again outside of BYU and more generally outside of Utah, Mormon culture especially Utah Mormon culture is weird and could definitely fuck with a study like this.

    Though fun bit of personal experience with this exact scenario, my grandmother has better general visual awareness while my non visual awareness is a lot better overall. This means I subconsciously avoid things around me due to feel, sound, and smell but can be looking directly at something and not see it. Probably has something to do with the fact my eyesight is naturally fucked though, so my edge vision is basically useless for everything outside of movement since it’s basically just a blurry blob.

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    6 hours ago

    that location at BYU specifically is informally known as Rape Hill, so of course the women aren’t looking straight ahead

    i know i’m very glib and i joke a lot, but i’m deadly serious right now.

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    Even if this was a conclusive study (sounds like there’s some issues there with selection and methodology,)….

    This is probably because women are more likely to be harassed/assaulted/raped/mugged/etc.

    Other vulnerable groups (trans, immigrants, etc) are probably are also scanning and maintaining better situational awareness.

    It’d be nice to be able to walk down a street without making other people uncomfortable because men in general are less assholish than bears.

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      It’d be nice to be able to walk down a street without making other people uncomfortable because men in general are less assholish than bears.

      A part of it is large numbers bias. Very few people encounter bears, so very few people experience bear attacks. Even if every bear was predisposed to attacking people, there would still be very few bear attacks. But virtually everyone encounters men on a near daily basis. So even if the likelihood of an attack is extremely low on a case-by-case basis, the overall number of incidents is much higher simply because there are more cases of people encountering men.

      That’s why the go-to response to “it’s not every man” essentially boils down to “sure, it’s not every man. But it’s enough of them…”

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      3 hours ago

      Yeah I’m a guy who focuses so much on my surroundings. My trauma score is pretty high as well

  • redknight942@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    Alright yall, experiment time.

    Go bird watching. Or squirrels. Something hard to spot that moves quickly.

    Scan the treeline, or instead fixate on a point straight ahead. Do what comes naturally first, then the opposite. What method “spots” the motion first?

    See what method works better for you. Hope it helps!

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      10 hours ago

      I ride a motorcycle… When I was doing the MSF training (after riding illegally for years), I kept getting dinged for not turning my head to look into a turn. Thing is, I have excellent peripheral vision. I can see 90° to either side when I’m looking straight ahead - so I tend to keep my gaze straight ahead regardless of where my attention is…

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        Its been years since I took the course, but I believe one of the reasons for turning your head into a turn is “balance”. It basically recenters yourself into the turn.

        The other is not all helmets are made the same. Some are going to restrict your vision more than others.

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        6 hours ago

        yeah, i got dinged on my driver’s test for not turning my head to look. because my eyes can rotate in their sockets, something the examiner did not consider.

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      Right… peripheral vision in general is better at motion, but shit for details. It’s why sacchads happen seemingly at random; often something is signalled in the periphery, so the individual glances in that direction.

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    I must be a woman cause I too am always looking around. But I get why women have to do this. Same reason they rather run into a bear in the woods rather then a man. It’s fuck up but just proves as a collective us men need to do better.

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    13 hours ago

    That’s why I can never find anything and have to ask my girlfriend for help. I’m bad and scanning the periphery.

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    Men and women also navigate differently. Men tend to navigate by direction and women tend to navigate by landmarks. I suppose looking around alot as a woman helps find those important landmarks.

    I always wonder if women were the gathers becuase of how they navigate and look around, or were women the gathers becuase they could navigate by landmark and tend to look aound alot?

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      please do not get me started on how my mother gives directions she always includes turning at some animal. you know, those animate things that have lives and can move and not be there when i drive by.

      it all started because she watched O Brother Where Art Thou and she thought “you will see a cow on a roof” was funny, and it was, and then she saw a goat with a hat on it on a drive to someplace and she was turning there and told everyone to turn at the goat with the hat. guess who was not there when everyone else was driving by oh gods i got started