Unfortunately the EU has no say in the tariffs that the US charges its own citizens. US customs can just ignore the Supreme Court ruling and keep charging people to get their stuff out of lockdown and there’s not a whole lot anyone can do. In theory the Supreme Court could maybe charge Trump with contempt of court but that’s about as likely as Trump suddenly becoming a decent human being instead of an ambulatory bag of excrement.
Actually we do, when Trump last time threatened EU, EU suspended the ratification process of the trade deal, and Trump IMMEDIATELY pulled back.
EU has lots of options to retaliate against USA, for instance tax on American IT services is a very high ranking one.
Just Denmark alone supply 70% of insulin to USA. And handles 30% of container cargo to USA. This was revealed recently because of Trump threats against Greenland, which is part of the Kingdom of Denmark.
USA is far from as independent as they like to pretend, they have dependencies even on a tiny country like Denmark of only 6 million citizens.
EU has given many admissions to USA under Trump, but patience is running out.
America breaks its own economy, EU crashes with them, mass unemployment and depression follows, right wing extremists swoop in and seize power blaming immigrants, and swear fealty to the MAGA empire. Complete conjecture of course but just something to consider.
Well, yeah, but the EU could go for retaliatory tariffs again, which could put huge economic pressure on the US, hopefully forcing Trump’s hand into honouring the deal.
That’s the one that will really hurt (the right people) - Canada and EU dropping US copyright would hurt too, and if all else fails, just dump Treasuries
As a US citizen… Dropping us copyright would be a critical blow. Don’t enforce rights on tv/novies/games/music would crumble the economy. I’m not against it but yeah, that’s a nuke to the economy.
AFAIK it has actually been suggested that EU could drop American patents, to create a competitive IT infrastructure without USA.
I suppose copyright could be a logical follow up.
Unfortunately the EU has no say in the tariffs that the US charges its own citizens
They can say:
“Since US Consumers can pay 15% more, we’ve decided to implement a 15% export fee to any product to the US.”
That takes the “power” away from trump, he can raise the price as much as he wants but he becomes powerless to lower it.
Almost every “American” product is at best assembled components, and each one of those components can be hit by export fees by the country that makes them.
It’s a very easy movie, almost guaranteed to work, and makes them money. I don’t know why they’re not doing it.
It’s a very easy movie, almost guaranteed to work, and makes them money. I don’t know why they’re not doing it.
Probably because export tariffs make your product less appealing to import compared to other potential competing exporters who don’t collude on an export tax, or the target country who might be incentives to produce domestically instead of importing. Obviously, some industries are more geographically locked than others, but these deals still have knock on effects.
Unfortunately the EU has no say in the tariffs that the US charges its own citizens. US customs can just ignore the Supreme Court ruling and keep charging people to get their stuff out of lockdown and there’s not a whole lot anyone can do. In theory the Supreme Court could maybe charge Trump with contempt of court but that’s about as likely as Trump suddenly becoming a decent human being instead of an ambulatory bag of excrement.
Actually we do, when Trump last time threatened EU, EU suspended the ratification process of the trade deal, and Trump IMMEDIATELY pulled back.
EU has lots of options to retaliate against USA, for instance tax on American IT services is a very high ranking one.
Just Denmark alone supply 70% of insulin to USA. And handles 30% of container cargo to USA. This was revealed recently because of Trump threats against Greenland, which is part of the Kingdom of Denmark.
USA is far from as independent as they like to pretend, they have dependencies even on a tiny country like Denmark of only 6 million citizens.
EU has given many admissions to USA under Trump, but patience is running out.
I like the option of not acknowledging US copyrights, patents, or trademarks for a minimum of one year
Let’s see how quickly the oligarchs attack Trump
They could just start with not enforcing the anti-circumvention clause of the us dmca.
Let there be jail-broken iPhones with European owned app stores.
All existing U.S. patents, trademarks, and copyrights are are permanently invalid. Gotta put some teeth into it.
They put in new clauses in the 750 billion trade deal between EU and US, if Trump threatens to take Greenland one more time the deal is off the table: https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-parliament-us-trade-deal-approval-us-donald-trump-proof-safeguards/
run out faster
America breaks its own economy, EU crashes with them, mass unemployment and depression follows, right wing extremists swoop in and seize power blaming immigrants, and swear fealty to the MAGA empire. Complete conjecture of course but just something to consider.
if patience runs out eu acts before that tho, or am i misunderstanding?
They do indeed. Aren’t they like the third largest economic market in the world? They can make it really sting if they’re motivated.
Europe is indeed the third largest economy in the world, but EU is the global leader in trade.
Well, yeah, but the EU could go for retaliatory tariffs again, which could put huge economic pressure on the US, hopefully forcing Trump’s hand into honouring the deal.
I wonder if EU will have enough spine this time. We can tariff the digital services…
That’s the one that will really hurt (the right people) - Canada and EU dropping US copyright would hurt too, and if all else fails, just dump Treasuries
As a US citizen… Dropping us copyright would be a critical blow. Don’t enforce rights on tv/novies/games/music would crumble the economy. I’m not against it but yeah, that’s a nuke to the economy.
AFAIK it has actually been suggested that EU could drop American patents, to create a competitive IT infrastructure without USA.
I suppose copyright could be a logical follow up.
They can say:
“Since US Consumers can pay 15% more, we’ve decided to implement a 15% export fee to any product to the US.”
That takes the “power” away from trump, he can raise the price as much as he wants but he becomes powerless to lower it.
Almost every “American” product is at best assembled components, and each one of those components can be hit by export fees by the country that makes them.
It’s a very easy movie, almost guaranteed to work, and makes them money. I don’t know why they’re not doing it.
Probably because export tariffs make your product less appealing to import compared to other potential competing exporters who don’t collude on an export tax, or the target country who might be incentives to produce domestically instead of importing. Obviously, some industries are more geographically locked than others, but these deals still have knock on effects.