French President Emmanuel Macron on Saturday, February 14, urged calm and restraint after the fatal beating of a 23-year-old French youth aligned with the far-right on the sidelines of a conference by a hard-left lawmaker in the southeastern city of Lyon.
The death of the young man – identified only as Quentin – has intensified tensions between France’s far-right and radical left who are both eyeing 2027 presidential elections.
He had been hospitalized in Lyon on Thursday after being attacked while providing what his supporters said was security for a protest against an appearance by hard-left MEP Rima Hassan at the Lyon branch of the Sciences Po university.
rot in hell you nazi fuck.
Nazi lives don’t matter!
They really really don’t… at all.
Since when did European media start using Trumps term ‘radical-left’ ?
There is no such thing, this is pure framing by the alt-right!
Trump calls everyone from AOC to Angela Merkel radical leftists.
The term alt-right is problematic too. I think you meant neo-nazis or just nazis
Fascist. The term you’re looking for is fascist.
Don’t forget to add the proper suffix, “cunt”. Or “scum” if you’re in mixed company.
France has been doing that for LFI for a few years, with Macron pushing Le Pen. Right wing media (most of them) have religiously followed suit, calling them radicals and extremists.
And now, the government just officially defined LFI as “extrême gauche”. And I don’t mean in speeches but legally. This pissed off the real “extrême gauche”, stating that there is a difference between trying to tame capitalism vs abolishing it. But hey all the same to the media and the government: don’t you dare criticizing this magnificent system that keeps us on top and you at the bottom
His supporters say he was providing “security” - we all know the far-right lie 100% of the time, so he probably started a fight and lost his life.
Providing security in the way that Hitler’s people did in the early 30’s.
By showing up in numbers, starting fights, and then claiming to be defending themselves. A tried-and-true Nazi propaganda tactic, and I’m glad the French aren’t standing for it.
It’s “security” to a “counter protest”. We all know what that means. Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Such a tragedy
Nazi lives don’t matter.
Nothing of value was lost
I forget, what is the only good nazi…?
It rhymes with shed I think
The only good nazi is a sled nazi? Crikey, I wish they’d all just die!
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Hey, wait a minute!!!
Von Braun? No, that isn’t it.
Far right meaning Nazi in this case?
I won’t cry any tears for dead Nazis.
“Hatred that kills has no place in our country” - Man trying to stop hateful people who want to kill from facing consequences of their actions.
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If National Rally were in any position of power, this easily could have become France’s Reichstag Fire moment.
You go Frenchies that is based.
This comment section looks exactly like the comment section of a post in a right-wing place that discusses the news of a far left person being killed.
Hitler celebrated the death of leftists and leftists celebrate the death of Hitler.
Reading the comments here feels like a superhero movie where the protagonist kills one million bad guys and then forgives the final villain because violence is bad.
Are you ignoring that the context of those two are different on purpose or just missing that part?
No, I’m not ignoring the context.
There’s a reason the death penalty has been abolished in most of the world. Just because someone kills people doesn’t mean that you should kill them in turn, and celebrating deaths is similar.
Especially when it is not clearly known who the victim was.
So you’re willfully ignoring
How can I willfully ignore that for which there is no information on? For all we know, the person that was killed could have been led there under false pretenses, could have been forced to be there, was heavily abused and then emotionally exploited to be there, the beating could’ve been made because he slept with one of the attackers girlfriend, etc etc etc
There are countless explanations that could lead to this attack being absolutely unrighteous, and unless there is some more information about the backgrounds, celebrating this death is just irrational hate and tribalism.
Go get back to standing on the fence
Very mature response :)
Yeah, when you come off as a centrist, I’ll call you one.
Get a load of doctor big brain over here
France right now is like a powder keg
This far-right activist was beaten by a street group calling themselves the Young Guards (“Le Jeune Gardes”). What makes this case dangerous is that Raphael Arnault, leader of Young Guards, is also a famous French MP.
He is part of a left-wing party calling themselves the France Rebellion (“France Insoumise”).
Raphael Arnault has been involved in street fights with Young Guards against Lepen supporters. He was even sentenced to jail by a judge. However, his political party always defended him, despite his criminal conviction.
Now, the France Rebellion party is getting blamed for this death. And they are facing massive calls for physical retribution.
Things could really get out of control.
Let’s hope that cool heads prevail.
For the sake of accuracy, as i think the translation “France rebellion” makes it sound more ominous, i believe something closer to the meaning would be like “indomitable France”.
I don’t think we should be beating or killing people for their political beliefs.
Most workers on the right are angry and confused. They have bought into distractions put there by our rulers, and we should be going after the source of the problem rather than the symptoms.
Their “political beliefs” are inherently violent and actively seek to oppress and cause harm to those they deem as “lesser”. Don’t try to downplay this with silvery words.
It doesn’t matter if they are angry and confused when they are actively creating a hostile environment for those they victimize. We first must protect our communities. So, they have two options: stop spouting their bullshit so we can ensure the safety and comfort of our community or be stopped by any means necessary. If they end up dead then they made their choice to die on the hill of supporting oppression.
We should be going after the root cause, yes, but first we must build our communities so that we can have the foundation to do so and we cannot accomplish that while we have fascist supporters actively breaking that community down by spreading their hatred.
Ahh, so you’re trying to stop violence with a “preemptive” strike? It’s better to kill them now so they don’t kill others later?
Kind of ironic, don’t you think?
What a blatant interpretation of what I said.
It isn’t preemptive. It is direct, self defense against it. They start it by engaging in inherently violent rhetoric. We then tell them to stop spouting their oppressive bullshit. If they don’t, they will be made to stop to defend the community against them and protect those who they are attempting to marginalize.
If you cannot understand this simple explanation, then you cannot be helped or are clearly arguing in bad faith.
I love when the nazi lovers out themselves.
It’s sad people like you think they’re right when they’re wrong.
What is preemptive about people fighting back against their active oppressors?
Where do you draw the line of acceptable self-defense? Or are you just one of those “AlL viOlEnCE iS bAD nO mATteR tHe cONteXT!” idiots?
If you don’t remove all of the cancer and rot, it will continue to fester and grow until it kills the host.
So you think it makes more sense to target the symptom rather than the cause?
You’re not just advocating for this because it’s easier and more convenient than going after the source?
Fuck your false dichotomy bullshit.
You can treat the symptoms while working to cure the cause. The two are not mutually exclusive. Each has merit and doing both simultaneously has compounding benefits.
And to you, “treating the symptoms” is beating and murdering people who disagree with you?
Specifically those who disagree with my right to live. If you disagree on any other front, there’s no reason for violence.
Oh fuck of with that disingenuous “people who disagree with you” bullshit.
You’re clearly here in bad faith.
Fuck off, fascist sympathizer.
The last time fascism rose globally 70 million people died. Fascism is a cancer that needs to be cut out and destroyed or it will multiply and destroy everything and everyone in its path. It’s global cancer
The voting and response to your reasonable comments are what disappoint me most about the Fediverse. These people aren’t against violence out of principle. They’re against violence directed at their people.
There have been multiple times I’ve had to point out in politics and news communities the irony of people on the left literally dehumanizing their opponents. Apparently, people perceived as Nazi sympathizers don’t deserve trials, because they’re not even really people. We shouldn’t tolerate the intolerant, but that’s not not the same as not giving them due process. Even the literal Nazis got trials.
We know what happens when ideological extremists take power. They kill off their opponents to preserve doing things the “right” way. That happens whether they started out believing in their racial superiority or believing the workers need to rise above their oppressors. Eventually, they turn their nations into totalitarian hellholes so the “bad” guys don’t return to power. I guess we should just start shooting Commies and Nazis dead in the streets so that doesn’t happen. Also, the “centrists” who aren’t Commies or Nazis should die because they aren’t sufficiently against Commies or Nazis depending on your frame or reference.
Yes, I try to be forgiving and think it’s mostly due to a mob mentality. Everyone wants to one-up each other to show that they’re more dedicated to the cause, and eventually that leads to cheering when others are murdered for their beliefs.
You have a good point about ideological extremists taking power. It’s what happened in Nazi Germany. It’s what happened in the Soviet Union. It’s what’s happening in North Korea.
I wish we, collectively, could understand that this has more to do with human nature rather than what’s actually being discussed. Until we reach that point, we can expect to keep making the same mistakes again and again.
Your whole thing perceives ANY act of violence as escalating into extremism, how is that not the exact same kind of totalitarian black and white authoritarian ideology just defanged and turned on its head? Anyone doing violence of any kind is just as bad as Nazis, because you were fed some pacifist pseudo religious isolated morality bullshit tale at some point that you took as an absolute truth. That’s stupid. That is simply not how the real world works.
Where does self defense fit into your enlightened pacifist worldview?
Yeah, you don’t know what your talking about and you’re making assumptions that aren’t true.
Where does self defense fit into your enlightened pacifist worldview?
This wasn’t self defense, and I never proclaimed to be a pacifist. I said we should target the source rather than the symptoms.
I think you’re just angry and trying to fit in with your peers.
I think you just enjoy jerking yourself off up there on your pedestal. Fuck you and the moral high horse you rode in on.
We see you.
One of these twats basically told you you should die for defending Nazis, and all you did was say the guy shouldn’t have been beaten to death.
The average layperson doesnt deserve death, the people running security deserve a beating. People running operations for Nazis should be scared for their lives.
The amount of people praising murder on the streets of France in this thread is shocking. France is not living under the Reich, murder has no excuses and it’s also incredibly self-defeating for the far-left.
