• gaja@lemm.ee
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    23 days ago

    Got a lot to say but I’ll keep it brief-ish. Corporations love unhealthy people. They will artificially celebrate this and reinforce unhealthy lifestyles. This extends beyond weight.

    Once entrapped, escape is hard. Some are passive and depressed. Some are dismissive and defensive. No matter which cycle you are in, it’s unhealthy.

    I think smoking is bad like I think being overweight is bad. If a doctor says alcohol is killing you, it probably is. I don’t think hatred is deserved, but don’t expect any validation for those choices.

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      23 days ago

      Surely no coincidence that being obese is a gateway to hyperconsumerism anyway. Sugary, fatty, processed snack foods are way more profitable than healthy meals.

      Walking around town is free, can’t have that. Sit at this computer chair, watch advertisements and play video games instead.

      Heart disease at 26? That’ll be $2k/month until you die.

      Get depressed, buy the meds, never leave your couch, don’t fight back, you’re the evolution of humanity and - most of all - you are beautiful.

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      The meme isn’t about that, I’ve read stories of some doctors refusing to perform surguries to overweight people, but other doctors doing the surgery anyway.

      The same way a lot of women get told stuff is just from their period by doctors.

      • The reason for that is that surgeons are rated based on their success percentages meaning they’ll recommend against risky surgeries.

        The upside of this is that surgeons aren’t operating willy-nilly on people and will make a proper risk assessment. The downside is that overweight people have an inherently higher risk of complications from surgery, so some surgeons will pass.

        It’s not because they think these people don’t need it, it’s because they think it’s too risky. They’re usually not wrong about that, you just need to find a surgeon willing to take the risk or, if possible, reduce the risk by losing weight.

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        Look. Shitty doctors exist, but when 1/3 of the US is overweight, there are underlying issues that need addressing. I only hear horror stories when an addict, alcoholic, or overweight individual in my life is feeling insecure or defensive about a prognosis. Too many people deflect and it’s enabling a much larger issues. Our basic instincts are being exploited.

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        When talking about obese individuals, the fat very easily gets in the way of surgery. Compared to a healthy patient the risk of complications during surgery is much greater and really not worth chancing it (most if the time)

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        My mother had a doctor that refused to move forward with knee surgery because she was so depressed and refused to do therapy because it hurt her knee so much to move around.

        I guess I understand, why go through the trouble of surgery if she’s just going to be a bummer couch potato afterwards and never change her ways?

        But at least she’d be a bummer couch potato whose knee didn’t threaten to give out on her whenever she tried to do laundry in the basement.

        If I take my car in for new brake pads, don’t refuse me service because the transmission is on its way out.

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        I’m guessing that’s under the US health system, where doctors are incentivised to only perform surgeries with a low risk of complications

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          What countries medical system encourages risky surgeries? As far as I’m aware “reducing risk” is most of the game in medicine

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      23 days ago

      I am down 50+ pounds, and have another 20 to go. This is new to me, but I absolutely agree with everything you said.