• BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Folks.

    If you ever catch yourself describing how you want to torture someone to death, I want you to stop and take inventory of your priorities.

    Look. I am not a pacifist. Some motherfuckers need to be removed from positions of power by any means necessary, up to and including violence.

    That being said, should we not focus on restorative justice and rehabilitation? Why create unnecessary suffering in the process? The argument that things like the death penalty act as a deterrent doesn’t seem to be borne out in the evidence. What good is served by torturing someone, even if they’re the nastiest son of a bitch in existence?

    It is important to make sure we don’t let killing for sport seep into our ideology. Using violence against people is not something we should take pleasure in, let alone fantasize about. History has given us plenty of examples to draw from here; once you make a policy out of sadism, the group of people you use violence against only grows.

    Also, porn is fine in moderation (like everything else) and can be made totally consensually, you terminally online freaks.

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    21 days ago

    Interesting that all the assumptions of torturing producers and consumers are geared toward men. As though women don’t produce or consume porn.

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      21 days ago

      Or as if gay porn wasn’t a thing. It is funny when you realize how anti-men people do mental gymnastics for this kind of stuff, yet on the same breath state that sex work is real work, when pointed at OF “models”, or anything that is lucrative for women.

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        21 days ago

        So many people aren’t even anti-men, it’s just that they don’t respect women enough to consider them capable of anything distasteful(unless they can use it to force them to do things for them). It’s like how people lose their minds over trans women but say nothing about trans men. And, honestly, as a straight man from the start, we have a terrible history that, as a group, we are doing far too little to grow out of despite having so many tools and so much power available to us. I kinda get it.

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          I fully agree with that first half of the statement, and seeing women as nothing but things, incapable of evil, of plotting, murdering, mass murdering or any other distasteful thing.

          But then on the next few lines you show similar views with collective responsibility, on how straight men have a terrible history, and that we’re doing far too little to grow out of.

          People are not monolithic, and while sure, you can state statistics, judging everyone for the crimes of many or few they share characteristics out of their control with, is a very fucked up thing.

          Edit: The argument about women being incapable of things should also some of the fucking amazing things women can do, and achievements that history and sexism have tried and often succeed at burying. Honestly, humans are both magnificent and horrifying, no matter what gender they are.

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            I literally said “as a group”, which implies that it is a generalization and I am well aware that there exceptions. I myself am generally considered to be one such exception by many women I meet and I am quite proud of that and the work I’ve put in to get there.

            We, AS A WHOLE, are still not able to make women AS A WHOLE feel safe. They are choosing the bear and they are not wrong to just because a couple nice men exist somewhere. There’re also awful women out there, but I’m FAR more confident that I’d be safe around a random women than a woman would be around a strange man and no amount me of trying to be a victim will change that for the better.

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    20 days ago

    So voluntary watching of porn bad, mandatory watching of torture videos good? Or is this satire?

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      20 days ago

      This is not satire. Niiwa-Angel is a pretty active TERF, who also routinely posts about wanting to kill trans women.

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    21 days ago

    Most of the good porn is amateur couples anyway. Wonder what their take on that would be.

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    22 days ago

    Making the exception for young boys stumbling across it has me wondering if this was a post on child pornography. The extreme punishments would make more sense too.

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          There’s a group of rabid crazies that think that a woman can never consent to having sex with a man (because of the patriarchy). In their minds, any man who has sex with a woman is a rapist.

          It’s ironically one of the most sexist beliefs against women I’ve ever heard.

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            Ah yes, “all piv s*x is rape (and/or) unnatural” (they would ACTUALLY unironically censor the word ‘sex’ in their verbal diarrhea) posts.

            I remember seeing them getting more and more attention like ten or so years ago.

            …Sometimes I wonder if the political shitstorm we’re enduring today is at least partially backlash against that in particular.

            Like, the fascists print that shit out and frame it and say “this is what we are uniting against” and that’s how they convinced so many normies to follow them. Fuck.

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              It’s definitely a factor. I’m quite left leaning, but even I agree with them on a good number of points. Thankfully I’m capable of dissecting it further, so wasn’t drawn in. I can easily see how boys and young men could be.

              We spent our whole lives being told we needed to apologise to women for oppressing them. That women had it worse than us and things needed to be evened up. Meanwhile, we were often worse off than they were, and got no additional support, other than being told to man up and/or being laughed at, with a dose of “how does it feel”.

              Best I can tell. Feminists look at the top men and compare them to the average woman’s situation. They also make a lot of noise about the privileges men have, but are suspiciously quiet about the responsibilities linked to them. Women need their own space, but any male space is evil, and must be destroyed.

              Fyi, I’m also aware that it’s a small minority of feminists, but they have a disproportionate voice in the media.

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                21 days ago

                I just remember the “male tears” mug photos that went around as response to any grievance boys or men posted about

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                  Can you imagine the reverse? A “female tears” mug, being used to mock a woman after domestic abuse. It would have caused an unbelievable amount of outrage! The fact that the situation has deteriorated enough that I’m not sure it still would, shows the flaw in the mentality.

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              I don’t think you’re wrong that it contributed. If nothing else, the GOP used it in their brainwashing to brand all liberals as being like them.

              I literally heard Fox News use that logic not long ago to say that liberals are the reason why a child molester claimed he was trans when arrested for flashing children in a locker room.