Justified imo
Best part is that it never gets old day after day after day af…
Can confirm, I’m using arch btw and every three
pacman -Syu's I run into issues that are new to meHeh, that’s on you, bazzite here (was arch for a few years 4+ish years ago) can’t remember the last time an update was problematic (oh, wait, 42->43 broke a distrobox, but I do that myself all the time, it’s what they’re for).
you know what distro I would choose if I were prone to tinkering at the expense of the system’s month-to-month stability?

lmao :) Have fun.
It’s been 9 years since I set my system up, so…

Please do.
On regular Fedora 42->43 broke (or forgot to change?) a few SE Linux rules for me, so that I got constant notifications about violations. Otherwise it’s been rock solid so far.
Yeah, if you dig through journalctl (and you should once in a while) it gives you the commands to fix that stuff if you think it’s right. That said, would be nice to not have to do that.
It’s was even easier - KDE showed a notification, I clicked it and got a pop-up telling me about the violation and the commands to fix it of this behavior should be allowed. I could never copy&paste them from there. But yes, checking journalctl every once in a while is a good habit.
Since it was nothing that really prevented me from using the PC (e.g. virt-manager getting a violation when I shut down a VM), I reported it and waited for a bit if they’d resolve this and then just ran the commands after a two days without fix, because I wanted to get rid of the notifications
You get issues every fifteen minutes? Damn.
I’m on arch now (BTW) and I’m eyeballing fedora atomic sway.
Just nuked my CachyOS install with a routine update and switched to Bazzite after repairing it in chroot failed. I enjoyed the entire process, even the failures.
https://github.com/bradford-smith94/informant
This will help big time. 😏
nah, I visit archlinux.org before updating but most of the pain is self-inflicted
i’m still in awe i can literally just play videogames on linux.
The progress in the last 2 years has been nothing short of amazing.
The KDE team, Wine, Proton, TKG/GE/etc have worked miracles for the Linux community.
Also, shout out to Microsoft for spectacularly face planting in their move to Windows 11/CoPilot/Vibe coded OS development. Nobody deserves more credit for Linux’s growth than Microsoft’s complete failure to innovate as an operating system developer.
the best part is that they didn’t even need to innovate, they just had to not ruin it
The siren call of enshittification-driven short-term profits was too strong.
Little did we know that their long LONG term plan was actually “EmbraceIncompetence, ExtendBlueScreens, ExtinguishSelf”
Ikr? An indie game just came out last week, and I’m able to use my PS5 controller with all the really cool haptic feedback with no configuration on my end.
Well, I used enough linux to be angry about a lot of things.
4 days?
Took me 4 seconds to realize I can actually use the super key and have my start menu pop up instantly and not watch it struggle to load 50 ads and tell me to download candy crush
Just my files & programs, and instant search through them. All a menu needs to be
But also when I click the start button it has all of my files and programs
I have a couple of Linux machines, but I also use a MacBook. It’s been a year now, and every time I use the Mac it kinda pisses me off that I have to hit Cmd+Space to bring up a search. It feels like a massive step backwards.
And rightfully so.
I want that feeling to disappear, by having Linux completely dominate the OS space.
Microsoft Linux is what you want.
Unfortunately, that’s where I see it heading. And for all the good intentions out there, as soon as the corpos get involved, it goes to shit.
I think we’re a few principled maintainers away from standard enshittification of the Linux Foundation.
Without the „corpos“ spending money on developing the Linux ecosystem, we wouldn’t be where we are today. Red Hat (systemd), Oracle, IBM made a lot possible. Apple took KHTML and turned it into WebKit, the browser engine bundled with GTK and Qt.
Google managed to capture Linux with Chromebooks and Android phones. However their spending benefited others as well.
Single maintainers can’t do much to stop a determined corporation with money from forking a component or writing a replacement. I remember how Debian maintainers spent immense amounts of time and energy into fighting about adoption of systemd to replace sysv init.
The first few days is where you realize “holy shit, there is another world I’ve been ignoring and it’s so much more fun.”
I suppose it’s a lot easier to have fun when you’ve got some stability.
I’m always somewhat confused by this, I haven’t tried Linux since 2009 so maybe I just need to try it some more to appreciate what people mean by thks. I’d say it was “fun” in so much as it was nice to have a challenge for a little while but that was more sort of incidental to it facilitating my computer being a useful machine for me. In terms of it being a better operating system that does it’s job efficiently without problems, shouldn’t it be sort of… Invisible then? Like how can it be fun? I use my computer to do stuff so for me it’s sort of like an operating system is only noticeable to the extent that it is bad and if it isn’t bad I won’t really be aware of it.
“I’m always somewhat confused by this”
“I haven’t tried Linux since 2009”
ok
Well, invisible is how linux (mostly) is now, as opposed to windows which has become very visible and pushing and annoying by design. It is very refreshing to have an os which works and doesn’t constantly annoy you with unwanted things.
You should try it again, I am pretty sure your experience will be very different from 2009, because a lot has happened to linux since then.
But see, doesn’t that just mean it’s a really good operating system? Not necessarily “fun”? I don’t know if I’m getting my point across here. Think of a pair of shoes, there is much variation of form and design intent and pricing and capability but nevertheless they’re pretty much all there to facilitate the task of walking. You could get a really bad pair of shoes that constantly dig holes in to your foot and fall to pieces and make walking a huge chore. Maybe some day someone will make a pair that somehow force you stop and look at billboards and ad displays, those would be your windows shoes. You could also get a great pair, that feels so comfortable you could forget you’re even wearing them, they look great and they were a fantastic price and they never worsen your ability to perform the task of walking. They might even be such good shoes that they’re suitable for all sorts of walking adjacent tasks like running as well, perhaps you’ll enjoy running, again though what’s fun there? Running? Or having shoes that don’t make running difficult? I’d assume the former. That’s what I tend to wonder about with the folks who talk about how much fun Linux is. I’m sure the various distros are really great operating systems that work way better than a lot of other options and don’t have the same perverse incentives that keep those other options so consistently poor and for all those reasons it’s a great choice but who’s looking at operating systems thinking “this is going to be fun”? I’d love to have that same capacity to be so amused by it but it’s hard to see it as anything other than a functional piece of equipment. I certainly will have preferences and appreciation for good equipment but I wouldn’t think of it as fun. I have a similar reaction to people that say they like it because they want to tinker or “you can do anything you want with it”, I don’t want to yuk anyone’s yum but, what would you even be trying to do with it?
It’s fun for enthusiasts only, I suppose
As they should.
Hell yeah!
It’s their birth right
And rightfully so. They might not know much about Linux itself BUT they did dare try and for that they deserve recognition.
Imagine being a Linux user and a vegan, it’s absolute moral self-masturbation
Vegan Linux users can compile their own protein from source.
Their purity level is so high that they can
kill -9anyone wearing a leather belt with just a glance.There’s probably a pretty decent crossover between those two things.
I’m thinking about changing distros to Arch, for the animals (vegan btw)
Communist Linux users have a far superior morality complex.
Hey, some of us are also cyclists! By the way.
I had been dual booting bazzite for about a year, up until last weekend when it borked and I wound up just reinstalling. I just deleted everything and went pure linux. Still bazzite, still a little scared of the terminal, but windows is completely gone from my computer.
I installed Linux on my PC this week, so yeah.
Spill the beans! What distro are you running?
Simple and easy: Mint.

One of us! One of us!
Mint until someone makes a distro Karlach themed.
Be the change you want to see in the world
I still look at Windows user like this after a year
If they didn’t want to be looked down upon then they wouldn’t be using inferiour software.
4 years later and I look down like I’m even higher up.
As it should be.
Every day I use windows I find more that is wrong with it…
Yes, let the hate flow through you.
Unironically me IRL. I switched to Bazzite from Win10 this year and it’s been real smooth. I can’t belive how easy the transition was.

















