none of that is necessary, a digital fingerprint is more than enough to discern the age of any user. digital id, biometrics, and id verification for any social media platform is completely unecessary. its just another tool for the surveillance state to blackmail users into self editing and pre compliance.
What do you think happens when you use digital ID? You know you don’t actually send your ID over to the social media platform? You just send your public cert with minimal information. What’s the difference between this and ‘digital fingerprint’?
a digital ID is your identity turned into data. stored in databases, apps, or wallets, often tied to biometrics.
It can be checked remotely, instantly, and at scale.
verification can happen without you actively presenting it, depending on the system.
It’s usually linked across systems, government, banks, employers, healthcare, platforms. etc.
Tracking is trivial. Every check leaves a timestamp, location, metadata.
there is also the the risk of breaches, misuse, surveillance creep, account lockouts. to say the least.
the difference is you choose when to present a physical ID, a digital ID removes that choice. and exposes you to a far wider variety of issues.
a digital fingerprint is user data that is provided through the usage of a device or connection, its whatever information you “choose” that becomes available for others to look into on the other side. with no required definite identification. however its easy for algorithms to pick up the age of the user based on the data provided by their daily usage.so digital identification for social media is in fact a pointless persuit unless you want to control the “nodes” with more precision.
at the end of the day, a parent should parent their children, not the state. parents need be less lazy and more present in their childrens lives, especially because of the issues caused by things like social media. forcing everyone to give up their online anonimity so that big brother knows specifically that you like weird porn and express anti big brother views, just allows them to preemptively stifle you from competing or participating in society depending on whos in office at the time. or they leak your information, and someone uses your ID for god knows what else.
digital ID is quite literally the last nail in the coffin for personal freedom and autonomy on the internet, say goodbye to whistle blowers, and virtually any form of online resistance to fascism and authoritarianism.
just ask yourself how much privacy you may like to enjoy in the future, and whether or not you want a government AI or corporate AI combing your data, or your childrens data through their verified digital ID, and deciding whether or not you are allowed to participate in certain functions of society, and what impact you or they are allowed to have. based on the preferences of 1% of the population.
what is legal to say today, or yesterday, may not be legal tomorrow. and the punishments for crimes today, and of yesterday, may not be “fit” for the “crimes” of tomorrow.
basically meaning, digital ID is a fascists/authoritarians/corporations/elites, wet dream. and should be avoided at all costs.
Was this nonsense generated by AI? People in Spain already have digital IDs. It’s a personal certificated signed by the Governments CA. I import into Firefox and when I visit government website the browser asks me if I want to send my cert and which. That’s it. It has been working like this for decades. It’s crazy how confused people are about basic things.
writes a long winded summary that is inherently anti AI. answering all the questions and potentials of what comes with more acceptance of digital ID around the world, and leaving room for the reader to fill the gaps, assuming they are intelligent enough to do so
“Was this nonsense generated by AI?”
lol, fuck me for having okayish grammar i guess?
“People in Spain already have digital IDs. It’s a personal certificated signed by the Governments CA. I import into Firefox and when I visit government website the browser asks me if I want to send my cert and which. That’s it. It has been working like this for decades. It’s crazy how confused people are about basic things.”
yes thats one use case of one version of one countries digital ID system. congratulations on understanding how to use it. proud of you.
however. another example.
vietnam just forced their citizens to sign up for digital ID and froze their bank accounts until they did so.
“Vietnam has rolled out a national digital identity system around the VNeID platform, issuing over 62 million citizen accounts by 2025 and expanding mandatory electronic identification to companies and foreign residents as policy milestones stack up toward full coverage by 2026. The program now combines biometric authentication, bank integrations, corporate e‑ID mandates, and sectoral digitalization (notably tax) while facing persistent interoperability and data‑sharing challenges that the government acknowledges and is seeking to addres”
you can go quietly into that good night if you want to, friend. But personally, im not so naive to think that its all for the greater good.
if you cant imagine one reason why its not a good idea, then honestly i think you might be some kind of shill. whether you know it or not.
I wasn’t commenting on your grammar but on lack of sense in what you wrote.
I’ve seen this silly argument before. People keep equating digital ID with oppression because in some cases the system was abused. They read somewhere that digital IDs are bad and are unable to understand what they really are how they can function.
Here’s facts: many countries with fairly healthy democratic systems have been using digital IDs for years if not decades with 0 issues. Spain, Poland, Estonia… It’s just another ID. It’s not required anywhere, it’s not mandatory.
Other countries, like UK, require identification online without digital IDs. China was blocking, censoring and monitoring internet traffic without digital IDs. It’s almost as if those two things are unrelated.
You know what else the governments use to track citizens? Banking systems! OMG! We should get rid of credit cards and wire transfer. If we let people use those government will surely force everyone to use them and good night freedom!
Or maybe it’s just another tool that function without issues as long as citizens control their government? Maybe the issue are broken political system, not digitization?
none of that is necessary, a digital fingerprint is more than enough to discern the age of any user. digital id, biometrics, and id verification for any social media platform is completely unecessary. its just another tool for the surveillance state to blackmail users into self editing and pre compliance.
What do you think happens when you use digital ID? You know you don’t actually send your ID over to the social media platform? You just send your public cert with minimal information. What’s the difference between this and ‘digital fingerprint’?
a digital ID is your identity turned into data. stored in databases, apps, or wallets, often tied to biometrics. It can be checked remotely, instantly, and at scale. verification can happen without you actively presenting it, depending on the system. It’s usually linked across systems, government, banks, employers, healthcare, platforms. etc. Tracking is trivial. Every check leaves a timestamp, location, metadata. there is also the the risk of breaches, misuse, surveillance creep, account lockouts. to say the least.
the difference is you choose when to present a physical ID, a digital ID removes that choice. and exposes you to a far wider variety of issues.
a digital fingerprint is user data that is provided through the usage of a device or connection, its whatever information you “choose” that becomes available for others to look into on the other side. with no required definite identification. however its easy for algorithms to pick up the age of the user based on the data provided by their daily usage.so digital identification for social media is in fact a pointless persuit unless you want to control the “nodes” with more precision.
at the end of the day, a parent should parent their children, not the state. parents need be less lazy and more present in their childrens lives, especially because of the issues caused by things like social media. forcing everyone to give up their online anonimity so that big brother knows specifically that you like weird porn and express anti big brother views, just allows them to preemptively stifle you from competing or participating in society depending on whos in office at the time. or they leak your information, and someone uses your ID for god knows what else.
digital ID is quite literally the last nail in the coffin for personal freedom and autonomy on the internet, say goodbye to whistle blowers, and virtually any form of online resistance to fascism and authoritarianism.
just ask yourself how much privacy you may like to enjoy in the future, and whether or not you want a government AI or corporate AI combing your data, or your childrens data through their verified digital ID, and deciding whether or not you are allowed to participate in certain functions of society, and what impact you or they are allowed to have. based on the preferences of 1% of the population.
what is legal to say today, or yesterday, may not be legal tomorrow. and the punishments for crimes today, and of yesterday, may not be “fit” for the “crimes” of tomorrow.
basically meaning, digital ID is a fascists/authoritarians/corporations/elites, wet dream. and should be avoided at all costs.
it is very 1984.
Was this nonsense generated by AI? People in Spain already have digital IDs. It’s a personal certificated signed by the Governments CA. I import into Firefox and when I visit government website the browser asks me if I want to send my cert and which. That’s it. It has been working like this for decades. It’s crazy how confused people are about basic things.
writes a long winded summary that is inherently anti AI. answering all the questions and potentials of what comes with more acceptance of digital ID around the world, and leaving room for the reader to fill the gaps, assuming they are intelligent enough to do so
lol, fuck me for having okayish grammar i guess?
yes thats one use case of one version of one countries digital ID system. congratulations on understanding how to use it. proud of you.
however. another example.
vietnam just forced their citizens to sign up for digital ID and froze their bank accounts until they did so.
you can go quietly into that good night if you want to, friend. But personally, im not so naive to think that its all for the greater good.
if you cant imagine one reason why its not a good idea, then honestly i think you might be some kind of shill. whether you know it or not.
I wasn’t commenting on your grammar but on lack of sense in what you wrote.
I’ve seen this silly argument before. People keep equating digital ID with oppression because in some cases the system was abused. They read somewhere that digital IDs are bad and are unable to understand what they really are how they can function.
Here’s facts: many countries with fairly healthy democratic systems have been using digital IDs for years if not decades with 0 issues. Spain, Poland, Estonia… It’s just another ID. It’s not required anywhere, it’s not mandatory.
Other countries, like UK, require identification online without digital IDs. China was blocking, censoring and monitoring internet traffic without digital IDs. It’s almost as if those two things are unrelated.
You know what else the governments use to track citizens? Banking systems! OMG! We should get rid of credit cards and wire transfer. If we let people use those government will surely force everyone to use them and good night freedom!
Or maybe it’s just another tool that function without issues as long as citizens control their government? Maybe the issue are broken political system, not digitization?
Spanish here. Our NID (eDNI) has TWO certs. One to authenticate ourselves and another to sign things.