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    This is the line. Let’s be honest. That’s the red line. If he actually crosses that line you should do things that the World mods will ban me for saying. But that’s it. That’s the point where any semblance of democracy is totally gone. Where even the most neoliberal Democrat has to know that voting no longer means anything. That’s the point where you have to make a choice. That would be the final Point wherein there is a line of the sand you either put on the red hat and fall in line or you play back. Some would argue we’ve already reached that point mind you, but I think that would be the last reasonable line.

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      This is the line?

      No, this is the goalpost moving.

      Anyone who didn’t see this coming was either living under a rock or mockingly dismissing everyone telling them it’s coming as Russian bots trying to take votes away from Democrats.

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          I don’t think they’re late to the party, I think they’re moving the goalposts like I said…

          “Some would argue”… Not them, they wouldn’t argue that.

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      Let’s be honest. That’s the red line

      There’s been many red lines this past year. And this one isn’t even a surprise move, it’s been claimed loudly semi-continuously for five years now. Yet here we are.

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    Why wouldn’t he commit more crimes? He’s been committing crimes with impunity his entire life. Who’s going to stop him?

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    I mean the food, seats, and extra stuff is a lot better than AMC. The only reason I went to the AMC near me was for iron lung and so many seats had stains and the bathroom was ehhh.

    Edit: Not sure how it went to this post, my b

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      I’ll upvote this because it was funny to read in an otherwise depressing and aggravating political post.

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        Yeah, I was reading both but thought I had replied to the Alamo movie theater post. Need to find the little things to keep you going. Some days its hard to get out of bed to work when it seems like it doesn’t matter.

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    We’re going to watch this happen and no one will do anything. At this point the only thing that will stop the billionaires is a war.

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      A general strike would suffice. Then demands for resumption. Some of those demands should be massive wealth transfer that leaves no billionaires.

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    More treason.

    In a healthy nation the Republican party would be disbanded and outlawed.

    But this isn’t a healthy nation, so assuming we get to continue having elections and they are fair and the Republicans lose, I expect American’s hamster brains to completely forget about this in one or two election cycles and start flirting with letting these traitors have power again.

    This dipshit proved who he was the first time around and we only managed to get through one term without him before letting a child back into the Oval Office. We’re a very stupid nation.

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      before letting a child back into the Oval Office. We’re a very stupid nation

      Child-rapist, before letting a child-rapist back into the oval office.

      And I still believe 2020 was the last free election we had in this nation

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    Trump’s comments come as Republicans in Congress push a bill that would enable massive voter purges, impose photo ID requirements, and ban ranked-choice voting, universal mail-in ballots, and the acceptance of mailed ballots that arrive after Election Day.

    And you just KNOW the Democraps are going to let them have it all too.

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      I can see Schumer now, giving a forceful floor speech, his fist in the air, half-glasses on the podium, “rest assured, this matter is not concluded!” Then promptly voting yes with a promise from republicans that we’ll vote on something else later maybe.

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    The thing is, there’s no mechanism for nationalizing voting, and I don’t really see a clear path for Republicans to do that in the next nine months. They’d have to pass legislation to do that, which would be extremely difficult given their margins in congress. Even then, states control elections as a function of the Constitution, and while the Supreme Court is happy to approve whatever unconstitutional bullshit Trump dreams up, it will take times to get through the courts. He could try to seize control of the voting process from states, but I don’t know that he has the infrastructure to manage the whole voting process through the executive branch, and the fact that he’s asking the Republicans to do this for him makes me think he knows this. Either way, any kind of coup on the election process would face the same legal challenges as legislation.

    That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be extremely worried. I think it’s unlikely that the Republicans will, “nationalize the voting,” but I think it’s very likely he’ll send federal goons in to, “prevent voter fraud,” (AKA suppress the vote).

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        Yes, but most of those have either not been achieved yet or have only been achieved because they were relatively easy. He tried to abolish the 14th Amendment through EO on day one, and it’s just getting to the Supreme Court now. He’s been able to illegally dissolve federal agencies because the Republicans in Congress have abdicated their power, and destroying something is much easier than building it.

        Even if he signs an EO to take over the elections tomorrow, he’ll still face legal challenges that will likely wind up in the Supreme Court, and he’ll still need to build out the infrastructure to run these elections federally, something the federal government has never done. I’m not saying that he can’t steal the elections, or that we shouldn’t be worried, but the idea that he’s just going to, “federalize,” elections in fifteen states before the midterms seems pretty unlikely.

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      Hasn’t there already been significant efforts towards a national vote? We saw the massive progress turn into a slow burn on the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which was the closest we’ve ever come.

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        That’s about ending the Electoral College. What Trump is talking about is the federal government taking control of how elections are run. The state’s are in charge of conducting their own elections, even federal elections, rather than the federal government, per the Constitution. This is what makes it difficult for Trump to rig elections through direct methods such as ballot stuffing.

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      Don’t be so sure the votes aren’t there in Congress. Mike Johnson just went on the record saying “I know that it’s fraudulent every time a Democrat wins, although I can’t prove it”. I bet Republicans pass something batshit crazy before the midterms.

      But then it gets to the Senate, and Democrats can fillibuster, right? Well, the fillibuster is just a rule, which the majority keeps around because it knows it will be in the minority someday. But what if Republicans ditch it to guarantee a permanent majority? They absolutely would ditch it, if they thought it would make a difference in the election, and cement Republicans control of Congress.

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      They think they’ll be doing the treading. They are mistaken, but they won’t realize until it’s too late to save themselves.

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    He’s been saying this kind of thing all along, either canceling or rigging the elections. Why is it only a fire now?

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      It was a fire the first time and every time since. It’ll be a fire next time too. Likely we’ll continue the trend of doing nothing about it while we slide deeper into Nazism, cuz that’s how murica do.