Intensive care nurses immediately doubted the word of federal immigration officers when they arrived at a Minneapolis hospital with a Mexican immigrant who had broken bones in his face and skull.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents initially claimed Alberto Castañeda Mondragón had tried to flee while handcuffed and “purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall,” according to court documents filed by a lawyer seeking his release.

But staff members at Hennepin County Medical Center determined that could not possibly account for the fractures and bleeding throughout the 31-year-old’s brain, said three nurses familiar with the case.

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    AP shared the details of Castañeda Mondragón’s injuries with Dr. Lindsey C. Thomas, a board-certified forensic pathologist who worked as a medical examiner in Minnesota for more than 30 years. She agreed with the assessment of hospital staff.

    “I am pretty sure a person could not get these kinds of extensive injuries from running into a wall,” Thomas said, adding that she would need to see the CT scans to make a more definitive finding.

    “I almost think one doesn’t have to be a physician to conclude that a person can’t get skull fractures on both the right and left sides of their head and from front to back by running themselves into a wall,” she said.

    So was the ICE agent dumb enough to think this was a believable story or did they just not give a fuck if anyone believed it or not? It could really go either way.

    The nurses interviewed by AP said they felt intimidated by ICE’s presence in the critical care unit and had even been told to avoid a certain bathroom to minimize encounters with officers. They said staff members are using an encrypted messaging app to compare notes and share information out of fear that the government might be monitoring their communications.

    Welcome to Trump’s AmeriKKKa.

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      or did they just not give a fuck if anyone believed it or not?

      We have literal footage from multiple angles of ICE agents murdering people and the government is protecting them. The agents don’t give a fuck. They’ve been given permission to kill anyone they want and nothing will happen.

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      So was the ICE agent dumb enough to think this was a believable story

      It is probably the same story he gives when his wife/gf ends up in the ER for similar injuries.

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    Shouldn’t the agents who brought him in be treated as suspects in an attempted murder case? They should be detained and questioned and charged with obstruction of justice if they don’t comply. That’s what would happen to literally anyone not wearing that uniform who walks into a hospital with a person with life-threatening injuries that appear to be inflicted maliciously.

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    Doubt of anything ICE and DOJ says should be the default starting position.

    They have shown themselves to constantly lie about all kinds of things and never apologize for any of their lies. They are simply not credible.

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    This sounds like an explanation the Russian government would give. Looks like those dumb assholes in the I’d rather be Russian than a Democrat shirts got their fucking way.

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    To be fair if you’re an ICE goon running headfirst into a wall might be a common activity for you so it seemed like a plausible story to come up with.

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    one doesn’t have to be a physician to conclude that a person can’t get skull fractures on both the right and left sides of their head and from front to back by running themselves into a wall

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    Man, they barely even changed their domestic abuse excuse. “I swear I’m not beating her, she just fell down the stairs”. ACAB

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    These people are too stupid and distrusting of science to understand that medicine and forensics can very much know atleast some of what didn’t happen and did happen based on the injuries sustained and know that you’re lying, and what you likely did to the person.

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      They just don’t care. They know the administration is going to back them, so they say anything that isn’t totally self-incriminating. I expect they’ll eventually stop caring about that too.

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    Copaganda: we will use science to figure out what happened during this crime.

    Reality: I get to say what happened. Fuck you if you dont like it! What are you gonna do about it? If you reply I get to crack your skull.

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    Well people this time around ICE killed the right kind of people. 🙃

    This is obviously bitter sarcasm.

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          It’s almost like incidents without video filmed from multiple people and widely shared online don’t get as much attention as nurses telling a story they were told about an incident we don’t have video of.

          It’s really bad, but it’s also entirely understandable that it gets less attention.