The wealthiest nation on the planet has to abandon accountability to save a few bucks.
Clown country.
And give double that money to Elon. He needs it for a solid gold hot tub or something.
Citizens should up their shooting of DEA agents in response. Who’s going to see without the body cam? Seems American institutions need to go back to learning by trial and error.
Well they’re going to go with the ‘a cops word is always believed’ crap.
Not if you don’t leave any cops to testify.
Body cams were never a solution to anything. I remember multiple police murders recorded on body cams were the officer was acquitted by the jury. Police murder is basically legal in US*. Recording it doesn’t change anything. As for police brutality in general they simply learned to shout “stop resisting” when beating people up. Without basic accountability the recording are useless.
*It’s enough if police officer thinks he is in danger to make killing legal. Pretty much if he’s scared he can shoot. Body cams can’t prove he wasn’t scared.
Body cams aren’t the solution, but they do help a lot. When cops have zero oversight, they commit way more atrocities, on average.
You should read this: https://prismreports.org/2024/07/16/complex-troubling-history-police-body-cameras/
"Long before body cameras were introduced to the public and found themselves in mainstream conversations about police reform, they were first peddled to police departments by tech companies and major corporations.
With body cameras, law enforcement agencies could expand their surveillance capacity, mitigate police brutality lawsuits, create “highly controllable evidence” against the largely poor, largely Black citizens of whom police often seek to capture footage, and quell social unrest by creating “comprehensive digital archives” of attendees at protests for social change"
“It was the 2014 police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, that would forever change the public conversation around police accountability and allow body cameras to take center stage. Almost immediately, body cameras were no longer being pitched behind closed doors to police departments, but were rather presented to the public as an invaluable tool for police “reform” and increased “transparency.””
I’m curious about the “highly controllable evidence” part. Perhaps this conversation isn’t attainable without getting into vast generalizations, however, in my experience officers generally activate their cameras when they respond to a crime and don’t turn them off until they are no longer investigating the crime. This is generally when the defendant has already been interviewed and is custody in a police vehicle. If there are subsequent interviews, they turn back on their cameras.
I know my experience is not universal, but body cameras seem to be a great way to maintain transparency in investigations since defendants and prosecutors will both have video/audio of the investigation.
In another comment I posted a link to another study that shows police does not provide footage from most of police shootings. Yes, most of the time the camera is recording but most of the time only police can see the footage. That’s what they mean by "highly controllable evidence”. When it exonerates the officer they give to the TV stations in a matter of hours. When it doesn’t they hide it and you have to fight them in courts for years to see it.
Anyone can record in public at any time anyway. There’s no reason to not have police body cams even if they aren’t as effective as they should be. The police will always have body cameras if they want them, and they don’t want them. If the police don’t want to wear them, that tells me that they probably should even if we need to work on getting public access to the footage.
With body cameras, law enforcement agencies could expand their surveillance capacity, mitigate police brutality lawsuits, create “highly controllable evidence” against the largely poor, largely Black citizens of whom police often seek to capture footage, and quell social unrest by creating “comprehensive digital archives” of attendees at protests for social change"
Did you read this part? It pretty much contradicts everything you said.
Yes, I read it but I don’t see any evidence to think that their stance is correct. Just because somebody writes something doesn’t mean it is correct or even accurate. There’s no citation for anything except one study demonstrating that the footage is not used to convict police officers very often, which is the real problem.
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/research-body-worn-cameras-and-law-enforcement
“Across these evaluations, researchers looked at a range of outcomes, including use of force, citizen complaints, arrests, and assaults on officers. Four of the body-worn camera programs evaluated were found to have no, limited, or even negative effects.”
https://cebcp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/BWCpaperLumetal.pdf
“Prosecutors, however, rarely bring cases against the police (Skolnick & Fyfe, 1993), and it remains to be seen whether this will change much as a result of BWCs. In their study of the use of BWCs in the courts, Merola et al. (2016) found that nearly all (93.0%) responding prosecutors’ offices in jurisdictions that use BWCs use them primarily to prosecute citizens. Not surprisingly, 80.0% of responding prosecutors in Merola et al.’s survey support BWC use by the police, and 63.0% feel cameras will assist prosecutors more than defense attorneys”
I know that probably no amount of research and evidence will change your mind but those are pretty easy to find so I just leave it here for other people to see.
I can’t tell if you are agreeing with me or not. I just said the real problem is that it’s not used to prosecute police officers enough. Are you disagreeing with me citing one study that said four programs potentially had some negative outcome?
If body cameras are good for police, why do police not want to wear them?
There’s a reason some cops turn off their body cams before certain encounters, it’s because some places do hold them accountable. At least there’s a public record
There’s always a small chance police officer will be held accountable but in vast majority of cases the system simply doesn’t work. Body cameras are part of that system. They are used to create evidence the police can control and use in their favor. In most cases they simply hide the recordings (https://www.propublica.org/article/how-police-undermined-promise-body-cameras?c_src=33685809.57194).
It was just so inconvenient having to remember to cut them off before flagrantly breaking the law
“Dea says crime is warranted for stopping more crime”
“There’s no corruption here”, said the corrupt regime.
Mob rule. And not the angry crowd of people type. The Organized Crime type.
America is going to resemble every 1990s russian gangster’s wet dream in half the time.
Turns out it shows more evidence of corruption.
Well yeah, now they can plant evidence against people opposing the ruling administrations policies.
Civilians are never guilty. Police are always corrupt. Sure.
