Summary: Republicans are 50/50, everyone else is strongly opposed.

    • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social
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      Yeah! We need to take Greenland because checks notes that’s where fentanyl comes from and without it we will get more brown people!

      Seriously brown people are all the argument they need. The racism is insane with the party. Maybe they can say that Greenland is being invaded by tren de aragua and we need to bring ice there to improve our community. It’s the same logic we already have right? As in, devoid of it.

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      Honestly I actually think this is a good sign. There was a point toward the end of 2024 when Trump could have come out and said the moon is made of cheese and polls would say 50% of Americans agree with him. The fact that in less than two years Trump has lost 50% of his base is insane. He’s is hemorrhaging support.

      If numbers keep moving this way the midterm elections, which happen later this year will be interesting to say the least.

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          I agree that Trump will try to cancel them, but if he does it will truly be the end for him. I am watching Milwaukee and I no longer believe Americans will sit still and let him cancel midterms. The opposition to Trump took a pathetically long time to get going, but it is finally going.

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    70% of Americans approve of higher minimum wage and universal health care, too.

    It doesn’t matter.

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      That means there has to be an overlap of millions of Americans who want this but still voted Trump. Does their stupidity know no bounds?

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        There’s a metric fuckton of Americans who would resurrect Hitler and the entire 3rd Reich before they willingly voted for a woman… let alone a brown woman… it’s ridiculous.

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    Jesus Christ I had some hints that Republicans would be coming to their senses, but fucking 50/50?!? These people are fucking lost, too far gone. They are beyond normal legal or democratic avenues. This is a violent, fascist authoritarian cult, and they need to be stopped.

    If they don’t change their minds when their country threatens real hostilities against former allies, then they will not be swayed by anything except force, combined with real, uncompromising economic destruction.

    Americans will need a general strike and armed protests at this point.

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      They love authoritarianism, more than they love other people, democracy, anything. There’s a certain amount of neural wiring involved, as people lean into it, their amygdala grows larger and their fear of “others” and “chaos” intensifies.

      When I saw my mom posting a fundraiser for the Ice murderer’s family last week, I realized a cop could beat me to death in front of her, and she’d tend to his bruised knuckles in apology. That was the very last straw, I don’t know her anymore.

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        Yeah David Frum famously wrote “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

        He’s a former neocon Bush speechwriter and an ardent anti-Trumper. He would know.

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        I’ve seen enough of the die hard maga folks talk that I see why authoritarianism appeals. It’s annoying to think and if someone just simplifies the world for them, they find that much more appealing.

        To scrutinize the actions of their leader is just too much work, so they just slip into the comfortable position of “this is my guy, I agree with whatever he says, even if I were to be even vaguely at odds with him, is just because he is better than me and accepting whatever is just the right call”

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      Alternative perspective, for what it’s worth:

      50/50 is actually comparatively huge. Considering everything else has been 90/10.

      The first departure from your god-king is always the hardest. I expect for many, this is the first break, and will make any subsequent break mentally easier.

      Also keep in mind that people who identify/lean Republican has taken a little more than a 10% haircut since January 2025. Any “republicans say” is an increasingly smaller subset of the total voting population… getting more concentratedly nuts as they boil off the more rational ones. Even with this more concentrated version of Republicans, it’s STILL not popular.

      Don’t get me wrong, it’s not GREAT… but there is a trend line. It’s not moving as fast as it should, but it IS moving.

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      Republicans have come to their senses. They’re not in denial anymore, they realized they’re evil and they love it.

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      It’s not even former allies. Denmark is a current ally according to treaties that are signed into US law. Sure the US is effectively no longer part of NATO but all of the official reasons for invading Greenland could be accomplished by Trump admitting some agreements made by past Presidents were actually good.

      This is all because one deranged old child molester wants to put his name on the map and a whole bunch of people are too gutless to admit that’s what’s going on.

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      I’ll be generous for a second and presume that the vast majority of Magas are racist but not directly evil, so to speak, just naive, dumb, and brainwashed by decades of poor education and fox news

      Either way, once this is over I’d happily vote for taking away voting rights from anyone Republican. Not for being evil, but for being too dumb to be able to vote

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        I disagree. Anyone should be allowed to vote. But I’d happily support mandatory civics classes to be able to do so, where you actually have to pass to get your voter registration number.

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    As usual the ~1/3 are totally on board for being an asshole.

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    25% of Americans are perfectly fine with the US just taking over independent countries. 75% oppose but only if they don’t have to do anything other than answer a poll.

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    So I should be leaving a steaming pile of poop on every fourth front porch in the US? This is depressing, I only have so much poop.

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      Even if you pooped on a new one every day for 80 years, you’d only hit 29,200 porches. Alas, the shortcomings of human poop production hit hard in times like these.

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        However, if each of the 75019230 people who voted for Kamala would instead start shitting on the porches of the 25% (~90 million people), y’all will be done in less than two days. Such is the power of organizing!

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    So, there we are… there IS that second amendment thing that the people of the US are always proudly citing. My question to this is: Why don’t you proud Americans start to… well… doing target practice?

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      Frankly, I don’t see anyone domestically going to the ammo box over Greenland or nearly any foreign situation. That’s one of those things people will do soap box or ballot box, but not ammo box.

      The existence of the ballot box mollifies people, that nice, safe and easy mechanism is far preferred over the work or risk of the ammo box. I fear the project 2025 fall to understand this and will trigger people to the ammo box by denying them the ballot box, but at least in the moment this would be more of a voting thing.

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        I don’t expect americans to go after Trump over European affairs, if things escalate I am pretty sure the KSK is completely capable to relieve this Facist from its misery.

        What I expect is that the people of the US at least defend their own freedom.

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          Oh certainly I think they imagine the likelihood of a full way is low, not fall to recognize the likelihood of a more surgical clandestine op which absolutely could have a high chance of success even from one of the less resourced adversaries they are pissing off.

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    So. No one will talk about the 48% of Americans that are okay with abducting the President in charge of a sovereign country so rich Americans could snatch them away their oil?

    Yes, foreigners, if you go to the USA, apparently that’s a hot topic.

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      Be honest if aliens from space showed up and just abducted Trump and put him into space prison, how angry would you be about that?

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    Problem is that in dictatorships it doesn’t really matter what the population thinks about government policy.