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Downvoting because this doesn’t really have anything to do with science. Also because it isn’t funny. I support the message, though
In advanced countries the public transport isn’t a problem, only the USA is 50 years behind.
Railway map EU vs USA
Excuse me statesia isn’t 50 years behind. 50 years ago we were better. We’re more like 200 years behind.
Well, the US was always a third world country with too much money and weapons.
That’s very offensive to third world countries.
Ok, true, much third world countries treat its people.way better
Can they run 24 hours too? I can’t tell you how fucking annoying it is doing something fun with friends that goes late and have to leave at god damn 11pm or some shit so I can catch the last fucking train for the night or have to sleep over. Also cars specifically for people who need to move large objects or all their worldly possessions or something.
Yeah sure they can. The main train line near me runs 24/7.
In Britain, that’s the knock-on effect of two world wars thrashing the infrastructure, and 50 years of managed decline afterwards. Engineering needs to be done, and it’s nights, weekends and holidays.
This is already the case in many places where it’s possible. It would be a huge waste of resources though, in places that are thinly populated.
That’s weird. I thought it was everyone driving their own cars all the time that was a huge waste of resources.
With work hours being what they are, you don’t have set times where everyone needs to be at work or go home at the same time. It rural areas, having public transport so often that “you don’t need to check a schedule” would mean empty busses and trails most of the time.
For me, I can tell that I have lived in a city where this was the case. It was great! But where I live now, this isn’t possible. The narrative now is, that people should move into towns, to make this more effective. There is a very fine balance between effectiveness though, and industrialization of living conditions.
I mean, you are correct that building an entire rail line to a single farm to take the farmer’s kids to school would be extremely inefficient. We need farms, and farmers, and those farmers need to be able to get around, and the way for them to get around is personal automobiles.
But the argument “farmers need cars so we still need cars” is not really an argument in favor of auto-intensive infrastructure. It is a edge case, and we should design cities around the needs of the average person and make allowances for edge cases, not the other way around.
The meme is specifically about cities, so when you said “thinly populated,” that should have been about thinly populated areas of cities.
If you’re actually talking about rural areas and not cities, then you’d want to start with buses. Speaking of living in places with good public transit, I used to live in Japan, and I was surprised by how much buses get used in rural areas. They can get pretty full.
Yeah, they put busses into my exurb and they hardly have anyone riding them because they just connect one shopping center to a different shopping center to the library to the bus depot to &c. (never any residential). Only busses that stop in residential are schoolbusses. Now they wonder why no one uses the local bus. Or not.
The thing is, with public planning, zoning laws etc. you can make it possible. People generally move to where the jobs are, and that tends to be cities. It’s basically why Spain’s population is so concentrated in the cities, much more so than in other similarly-sized european countries. In the US, zoning laws were a huge part of how it became so car-reliant, too.
Yeah but have you considered auto makers profits??? Didn’t think so. /s
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Plenty of European cities were built walkable and with public transit because they were made before there were cars. And then we half-demolished them to make room for cars, and THEN/now we spent decades fixing the shit we broke to make room for cars.
Very real
I want teleporters so I can roll out of bed, shit on the floor and it goes straight to the compost, take a shower, mid shower grab some coffee from the good coffee shop, fart my way to work which is halfway across the globe and takes a hop skip and telejump to get to. I have dinner in Moosejaw and dessert in Ayacucho. I go to sleep in Rwanda and wake in Borneo. I really should do less drugs. Or more drugs. I can’t remember anymore. So it looks like more drugs.
US: “Too bad”
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