What are you looking for, here? Posts of solidarity with the Iranian protests? Seems like you could have just made one. Be the change.
Simply pointing out how there’s (rightfully!) all the righteous anger in the world when certain countries do evil, but a blatant massacre is going unremarked upon or excused because Iran is “anti-west”. I was expecting more than apathetic shrugs here.
I’m seeing posts. I don’t know what you’re talking about. I have little respect for “where are all the posts?” posts. It’s complaining that everyone else isn’t doing it for you. Someone has to sit down and post those posts. Maybe for this, since you obviously care, it’s you. Instead you’re shitting on everyone else for not already having done it.
Well, I ain’t, hence this post. Fun fact: I did actually sit down and post this post, as evidenced by us posting within this post. Sorry to drive you up the post by my posting, I shall send by post a post-it note reminding me to post more post-haste.
You may be unaware of the americans dying in the streets. Ice murdered a baby yesterday. Americans are occupied, mentally and otherwise
You’ll also notice that palestine is still being genocided. It’s the news cycle. It happens.
They’re not revolutionizing in the correct revolutionary way, which makes them bourgeoise agents of Western Imperialism.
Yes, but you see, the US is on their side, which means they’re the bad guys.
Precisely!
Hey man, a broken clock is right twice a day.
More like once a week, but yes.
I like how you conflate three very different groups of users together and smear half of them as something they’re not.
2500 dead, 10 000 arrested.
“ICE officers roam the streets and kill innocent civilians but 3%er, patriot front, nra and proud boys are silent”
Almost as if the lemmites “communist, socialist, anarchist” population are fascist authoritarians hiding behind a mask, posing for online clout.
There’s not really a lot of actual socialists here. Tankies and accelerationists far as the eye can see, but surprisingly few socialists.
Plenty of real socialists. Just filter grad, ml, and Hexbear, and the ratio much improves.
Nope, they’ve caught on and now use plenty of alt accounts from several instances.
Well, I said the ratio improves, not that you avoid them entirely.
I thought the contingency here of leftists and liberals was pretty high?
Leftists yeah, liberals it depends on the instance. The difference between those terms means a lot more here than on reddit. Plenty would argue successfully that liberals aren’t left at all but then we’re getting into anti capitalist theory which isn’t very practical in a capitalist society. But most lemmy communists seem to be of the Soviet and Chinese variety, so you know, not really communist at all but definitely anti capitalist authoritarian.
There aren’t really that many tankies, they are just extremely vocal. I suspect a lot of them are actually alt accounts too.
I’ll take things that never happened for 10 bucks.
In this very fucking thread.
Tankies are gonna tankie, that’s nothing new. There are plenty of leftists siding with the Iranian revolutionaries on Lemmy, so what the OP says (that leftists in general are silent on Iran) is false. Unless they’re specifically talking about tankies, but nowhere do I see them making that distinction.
Tankies give us leftists a bad name sadly.
Most of you here are against personal firearm ownership, make fun of the constant US school shootings, yet expect revolutions to be won against the State with only rocks and cleverly written signs.
Because its a Mossad/CIA operation and part of a campaign of a several decade long regime change attempt by israel.
PS: trump is Netanyahu’s bitch
No shit Sherlock, every revolution in history has been supported by a regime’s enemies. The French supported the Americans, the Germans smuggled Lenin into Russia, Soviets supported Mao, etc etc.
Braindead way to handwave away rape, murder, and maiming as state policy to terrorize and suppress their population.
I guess we can’t all be as smart as you.
Yeah man, it’s all the Mossad, actual Iranians are totally happy and totally support their very friendly government. They are totally not writing songs about how they are going to tear government officials limb from limb.
Not saying they are totally happy. But this is because of 20+ years of economic and financial sanctions by Europe and the USA for the crime of supporting Palestine.
Sanctions have become even more extreme after Trump pulled out of JCPOA in 2018 and applied 'maximum pressure" sanctions package.
I am impressed with how Iranians have protested en mass. It puts western so called democracies to Shame. But you have to be real that Israel doesn’t care about democracy. It wants.Iran to be broken up unto a dozen statelets that it can bomb at will like Syria.
This is scheming by the US Empire.
Oh Israel does not want a free Iran. We’re on the same page here. But Iranians do. And just going “tHeY’rE aLl MoSsAd AgEnTs” is fucking hilarious when you see how many of them are willing to get shot for their freedom. Surely it must all be done by Mossad agitators.
If the US dropped sanctions then the economic situation would improve. The problem is the US is owned by Zionists and they want to destroy Iran. They’re using protestors to achieve that.
From what I’ve read it sounds like they’re attempting a bourgeois revolution. Historically, it doesn’t bode well for the working class there, and eventually even for the revolutionaries themselves. I’d be happy to be proven wrong though.
I don’t particularly care for the Iranian government (they support Palestine and are anti-imperialist, but they have some really shitty policies at home). That said, the most likely outcome if the revolutionaries succeed is the US installing a puppet fascist government, most likely reinstating the Shah. It can get so much worse from here, just look at Syria.
“Some shitty policies” is an astonishing euphemism for a government just murdered 10k+ protesters and is actively using rape, murder, and maiming as weapons to terrorize its people into compliance.
I agree it’s fucked up what Khamenei is doing. Even before the protests the government had some awful policies when it came to human rights of the Iranian people. The protestors have every right to be angry and fuck shit up.
But judging by their slogans, a lot of them are aligning themselves with their fundamental enemies - imperialists whose sanctions have led the country to its current economic state.
Unless a revolution is staunchly anti-imperialist, it is bound to be co-opted by the US to set up a puppet government and extract as much labor & resources as they can muster, by any means necessary. Remember that the last time the Shah came to power, the protests were founded in real issues and grievances of the population, and look at the outcome. Look at the outcome for Syria or almost any Arab Spring country. I guess for many Iranians getting US to support them seems like the only way to win, in which case it’s a real catch-22. Maybe it will turn out that this iteration of the monarchist government will be slightly better than the clerical one, but looking at the state of US right now it’s unlikely.
I am heartbroken about this whole thing, because those people are clearly fighting for a better future for themselves, and they’re getting slaughtered for it. But it is likely that their sacrifice will be for nothing.
The current regime has been enforcing a gender apartheid system for over 45 years. I reserve the same hatred for these fuckers like I do for Netanyahu and Trump.
Yeah, but the monarchist protestors want to reinstate the US-backed Pahlavi dynasty in the form of Reza Pahlavi.
His father Mohammad, the last US-installed Shah of Iran has literally said this in an interview:
Women are wicked, evil, all of them … Women haven’t produced anything, no scientists, they’re pretty creatures
And has repeatedly referred to women as sexual objects existing only for his gratification.
Reza himself has been quiet on women’s rights, never once denouncing either his father’s views or the currently existing gender inequality in Iran.
I guess it wasn’t very socially acceptable to be that misogynistic in the US after the 70s or so. Maybe he will finally speak out now that Trump made this kind of discourse mainstream again.
I feel really icky defending a prince, but Reza Kiri has, on multiple occasions, denounced the gender apartheid in Iran.
His father being misogynistic, like any patriarch, does not negate the fact that women are de facto second class citizens in Iran. Their testimony in court is worth less than that of a man, their right to divorce is severely limited and let’s not forget how Mahsa Amini got beaten to death for not wearing her hijab correctly.
I’m not denying anything, except the neutrality of HRAI. It looks, in my view, as a CIA front. Also, they report 10000 detained people, but it’s not like you would care about it.
Ah, it’s “just” 2,600 human lives cut short for protesting against authoritarianism and we’ll over 10,000 more imprisoned with the regime pledging to execute them. Not that you care about it as those three magic letters clearly justify anything to you.
I don’t take those numbers as facts, that’s all. Don’t presume you know me. The 10000 figure of dead people was plain misinformation, even taking the source as true.
Leftists all arounds the world are known to be radical Islam sympathisers just because they are anti-west. It’s the hard truth and I am going to get downvoted to hell for saying this.
