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Isn’t Nothing practically a Chinese brand with just the marketing department working in the UK?
Spez is also part of Nothing
Fuck it then.
Just an investor. Not a designer. Rich people throw money at things to get more money.
Yes. It is a Chinese company with american investors with non-technical jobs in the UK to be able to claim “UK company” for marketing.
Their electronics are designed only in China, the devices are programmed only in China, their software is developed in China their technical job postings are all in China for years, their CEO ran a previous Chinese owned brand (lying/misleading about the company back then too) and has worked in the Chinese phone industry for 15 years.
Their CMF line and wearables lines are all ODM’ed through various Chinese companies (for those not aware, OEM is where something is designed by a company and manufactured by another where ODM is where everything is designed by another company and the branded company just gives requirements and some input, I worked previously for an ODM kind of company) and are generic widely-available hardware marked up for brand name recognition.
Their marketing is in the UK, that’s about it.
I had an RMA claim with nothing a few days ago and wow, did I hate it. They threw every stone they could find at me, and then managed to “forget” a part of the money they owed me.
Which is a shame, because I really dig their design. But fuck them.
The days of people preferring the US to China are over. I would buy Chinese tech over US tech any day.
There is no phone that’s 100% Chinese or American tech anyway. Like RAM and storage comes from Korea, often the camera sensor from Japan, the lens is designed in Germany and the CPU is based on ARM’s architecture designs and ARM is from the UK.
Here in Sweden they started with fishing for funding and making press about being a Swedish company. It worked and they got hype. Then they moved to some UK tax haven and now they are apparently based on London.
I’m not very supportive of Nothing.
I’m pretty sure they all are
Jolla manufactures in Turkey through its partnership with reeder
Nothing’s headquarters is in London so by definition it is a UK company.
Just like Apple is an Irish one 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Apple’s hq is in Cupertino, California
Sure, but the real apple where the californian hq buys copyrights worth billions from is in Ireland, that’s why there’s no profit made in cupertino or any apple store in all of usa 🤡
So IKEA is Dutch?
Lol a UK company with 0% of their product made in the UK, it is literally just a marketing office.
I already have two pairs of bricked bluetooth headphones, I won’t have a third.
The sole reason my current phone is a Motorola instead of a Fairphone. I don’t want to fuck around with additional adapters, just let me plug in my headphones directly. Also nice to be able to charge and listen at the same time.
to add another (german) brand: https://www.shift.eco/
I had the shiftphone6 back in 2018 and I believe it had an alternative OS installed, in any case I can’t remember the google play store pre-installed (correct me if I’m wrong).
Like Fairphone they have a cooperation with the open source android fork project eOs/murena
I was quite interested about a year ago, but seeing that they are now branching out to like 5 other “shift” products concerns me.
- SHIFTsound Speaker, Headphones, earbuds
- SHIFTbook laptop
- SHIFTscreen monitor
- SHIFTbike
- Other SHIFT accessories
Many of these are likely just rebranded products, not their own development.
Not really helping the good feels
Several of the products are actively being “crowd funded”…
Granted I didn’t read the fine print, but that gives me the impression that they are more involved.
I suppose they could just be preorders and gauging interest to determine how many to order with their branding. It still makes me feel a bit unsure.
Can not recommend from personal experience. Their phones break easily, including electronic malfunctions. And their customer support sucks. According to them, they do not even like to have the phones to be taken outside.
On the upside: they are usually easily repairable. Do always make backups of important data, photos etc. from day one though.I have been calling them Shitphone since. Feels more appropriate.
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They are all so fucking huge! Can’t anyone make a good <= 6" Phone anymore?
Seriously, I want a phone that I can hold in one hand, and my thumb can reach the entirety of the screen. My current phone is so bulky and heavy, I can barely reach half the screen with my thumb.
Are you Donald Trump?
Unfortunately(?) no, if I was I’d be able to afford a convenient micro sized phone. Or I’d just demand some tech company make it for me.
Unihertz Jelly Star!
Granted, I’m not certain how you’d define “good.” I got one just to play music on, and it might well have become my regular daily phone, but the camera isn’t quite what I would want. But it’s so small!
Yeah, sounds pretty nice. But as you guessed, my definition of “good” includes official Lineageos support or similar, which it does not seem to have. Or has someone tried a GSI rom with it?
Unfortunately not. I really looked.
My criteria are:
- Receives Security Updates for 5 years of more.
- Has headphone Jack
- Enough RAM to switch between apps without them closing.
I ended up with a bigger phone than I wanted. A Nokia XR21 which will last me until the updates end.
I recommend the “Quick Cursor”. It lets me use a larger phone one handed.
I miss the 4-5" smart phones. A HTC Desire was the perfect size and form factor for me. It’s not been beaten yet.
This was announced the other day and might interest you (it’s American): https://www.clicksphone.com/en/communicator
I need to buy a new phone and my criteria is basically yours, plus having a good camera. I would go for the FP6 but as I was checking a review video, the camera is not very good… Do you have by any chance any recommendations?
I’d look at HMD fusion if I were buying now and look for the business edition with longer update support and more RAM.
My Nokia was made by HMD. It’s been great and will be for a while longer as it’s got plenty of support.
You can get an “outfit” (case) with a built in ring light for the 108MP camera which I definitely don’t need. The “outfit” system is basically the phone has a set of pins on the back that allow custom hardware extensions built into to the case.
The HMDs have got to the point I could repair them or replace the battery without worrying about a heat pad and glue. That’s a big selling point.
The FP6 is only marginally larger (6.3") and actually “feels” fairly compact, if that makes sense. Recently switched to one from a FP3 (5.6") without any issues and without having to adjust anything about how I use it.
A subjective matter, surely. Currently I have a Samsung S10 at 6.1" and I find it uncomfortably big at times. If you compare the FP6 with the FP3, they don’t actually differ in body size that much because the FP3 had a way lower screen-to-body ratio, therefore they might seem very similar when holding in hand. With phones nowadays mostly having that huge screen-to-body ratio, bigger screens are one the one hand easier to fit in a smaller device, but at the other hand, the phones themselves also seem to get bigger and bigger. Try going on the lineageos device overview site and filter for phones in the last 5 years under 6", that’s what i mean.
Fairphone has an atrocious update policy. They do not care for security.
I highly recommend the e/os for the fairphones. Security wise it’s really great! And with the installer not that hard to install (imo)
the only problem I have is that I cannot install my banking app 🫤
If one of these phones runs GrapheneOS, I would be interested.
Maybe not what you’re looking for, but: https://shop.nitrokey.com/ sells Pixels with Graphene and disconnected sensors, and they’re European
holy shit, thats expensive for the 30 minutes it takes to install grapheneOS. with their web interface i would even trust my parents to not fuck up the installation of graphene.
and if i had a threat model which involves disoldering sensors, microphones, etc i wouldnt trust them as a source. not because nitrokey is untrustworthy. just because atleast in my mind almost nobody is trustworthy enough.
edit: just to be clear, no shade towards nitrokey. i just dont see the targeted customer base.
Is that another way of saying you won’t be interested?
Graphene only support Google Pixel phones, so it disqualifies anything else.
Sadly yes.
I’m really in no hurry to give Google ever money again. But whenever my current Pixel irrepairably dies i will probably just get another used Pixel and flash Graphene on it. I can really get behind the spirit to get european made phones instead. But atleast for now they all come with too much compromises in one way or another.
GrapheneOS is always looking out for a potential phone they can migrate to, since Google has stopped publishing the device trees for the Pixels. While they currently support the Pixels anyway, it is a long term goal for them to be on an independent platform.
Sounds like they should support those phones then. I don’t see reason they would block device trees.
Isn’t HMD like Finnish
HMD is Chinese but owns a lot of former Nokia intellectual property that was related to is phones. (NOKIA had a lot of other business assets that they didn’t buy)
HMD is founded by a former Nokia exec called Jean-Francois Baril. A French man. And the company is operated out of Finland. So if HMD is Chinese, because they manufacture in China, then every phone maker is Chinese.
I may be missing it, but I see no evidence that they are Chinese, other than using Foxconn manufacturing.
I really want a FairPhone with e/os but can’t justify buying a second phone hahaha
I have an iPhone that I use for my job - got it from my employer as well so it’s basically a free phone. Personally, if it wasn’t for my job, I’d delete all “social” media (IG and the likes), but it’s the main part of my job (I work in online communications). Still would love a second, more privacy-based, personal phone, but doesn’t feel like a possibility atm. Costs money as well!
Putting personal information on a work phone is a risky behavior. Most company phones are setup to give the company control over and access to everything on the phone.
Personally, I would never use a company phone for anything that isn’t for work.
Depends on what kind of company you work at. Most companies I know would just be: you need a phone, go buy one and give us a receipt.
Not all companies are big tech, and most companies likely can not afford the added cost of spying on employees.
Good thing is that I went to the store and bought it myself with the company card. My phone has never been in their possession nor are they monitoring what I do on it or on my pc (because same thing there)
I have a nothing phone 3 and very happy with it, it does everything you really want a smartphone to do, and looks stylish (imo) and has a really slick UI.
Downsides are camera is not good in low light and they push the AI stuff too hard.
And I’m not sure it quite justified the price tags when comparing it to Chinese or Samsung phones at a similar spec, but it’s not way off and for me was easy to justify a slightly higher price tag for a British based design company and better repairability/rights as well as some cool features and looks.
But the price point is the one thing all these 3rd party phones suffer from, you either have to make a proper budget phone, or try and make a flagship, but will cost 20% more than a Samsung because of scale costs.
If I did Not pick Up a Pixel for gOS, I’d be down.
I’m Just wondering how Long Google will keep the fence down for this. Kinda worried.
I got a refurbished pixel for gOS, but I keep procrastinating installing it 😭.
barely have the time
Yo. Take a short while. The Installation is actually very simple and I have been surprised how fast I was actually done
after weeks I finally did it. my main anxiety is that I need some banking apps (they work now)
Thats the biggest issue. But they have a good list of supported banks. In the end it Just has been doing the leap of faith and wow. Glad I did it.
Nice that it worked Out for ya!!
Too deep in the Apple ecosystem and too happy about it. Even though I am very curious about the Fairphone, I know that I will be annoyed by an isolated piece of equipment.
I like apple’s stuff too, but don’t let the fact that it all works so well convince you apple is a good company. Apple is evil in many ways, from how they treat the factory workers to how they treat their customers. They give you high quality but they overcharge you while they take your freedom. If they wanted to they could have designed an ecosystem that let’s you add a product made by another company, but they don’t do that because they rather suck you dry.
I know all of that. I also use a car, even though it contributes to climate change. I also eat fried potatoes, even though they are carcinogenic. I drink whiskey and rum, even though ethanol is carcinogenic, too.
I am not proud of it. But I am just trying to survive somehow.
But I am just trying to survive somehow.
I know the struggle.
Let’s not forget Crosscall. It’s a french brand specializing in durable phones designed for outdoor.
Is there any non google or apple phone projection functionality for cars? Or contactless payment platform?
These a big barriers, I did want the the nothing phone but the reviews were a bit off.
