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    How the hell can they just waltz into a country and just kidnap their leader without committing diplomatic suicide with the rest of the world?

    The next US president should finally join the ICC and give retroactive authority to prosecute anyone associated with the current US regime. Neatly sidesteps any pardon shenanigans they’re going to attempt, given a US presidential pardon has no legal standing outside its borders.

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      Diplomatic suicide with the world happened many months ago, were you sleeping? Threatening Canada, Greenland, who else?

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        The thing is those are all threats people involved in diplomacy can rationalise away as public image stuff and not take seriously. Like don’t get me wrong, it’s going to have them on alert, but it’s not a bridge burning yet.

        This is a physical act with no other interpretation. The US invaded a country and kidnapped its leader. This is a burnt bridge.

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            Some will, but most will see this as confirmation he will act illegally rather than just threaten to. i.e. an escalation of threat from before this happened.

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      The next US president should finally join the ICC and give retroactive authority to prosecute anyone associated with the current US regime.

      Not gonna happen. Trump is especially blatant, but imperialism is bipartisan.

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        Every single goddamn american president after the us became imperialist should go to jail

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      It’d be nice, but I can’t see a country that has a Hague Invasion Plan to prevent any American from ever being tried by the ICC just, you know, giving that up.

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      As an American I love this idea.

      Trump and the rest of the GOP at this point are traitors to both their own people, and to the world.

      Let’s throw a good number of the democrats in there, too. Not all of them like the GOP, but many of those assholes are also traitors.

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      Because Maduro was a pariah, same as Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein. Obviously, it’s not about liberating the Venezuelan people. The US isn’t even pretending this time. It’s about oil and getting rich.

      If you shoot a rat with a shotgun, yeah, maybe don’t do that, but thanks for killing the rat. If you shoot a dog with a shotgun, that’s pretty monstrous. As long as Trump takes out the worst folks, he’ll get away with it.

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    U.S. Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, posted his potential concerns, reflecting a view from the right flank in the Congress. “I look forward to learning what, if anything, might constitutionally justify this action in the absence of a declaration of war or authorization for the use of military force,” Lee said on X.

    YEA ME TOO! For fucking Christ’s sake. Wouldn’t that have been nice to have for the past 20 fucking years too. Maybe then we could avoid invading poorer countries to prop up “defense” stocks. There no money for schools, healthcare, housing, medicine, or food for children, but there’s a trillion fucking dollars for the military… to INVADE VENEZUELA???

    Everything Trump touches, misery follows. And now, death follows him too.

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      Psst, “nothing ever happens” people… This is where nothing cannot happen. I already can’t believe all the times he got away with ignoring the constitution, but no matter what your political alignment is, this cannot stand. He fucking can’t just bomb a country and kidnap its head of state, so that “the biggest oil companies in the world can make money” – that’s an (almost) direct quote from Trump.

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      Mike Lee is full of shit. He was not being facetious there, he’s literally looking forward to receiving his talking points on how to defend this shit.

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    Terrorist state. Next time anyone tells you they can’t act against a head of state you can tell them to fuck off.

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      Yep. And he’s not going to be released. Guarantee ther will be an “accident”. He’ll fall out of an open window- in a basement.

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        Nah. He’ll “escape”, then found with two shots to the back and flayed skin. Then it’ll be considered suicide.

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    So on what stage of deflection are the “Trump and Biden/Harris are exactly the same” locals at this point? Anybody keeping track?

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        You do know it.

        Be honest for a second.

        You know.

        FWIW, I don’t think it’d be a particularly unpopular opinion to support an intervention of some kind after the presidential election went the way it went. There are still plenty of people out there disingenuously pretending this is that.

        But this is obviously not that. This is absolute insanity.

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          Oh Im sure there will be way more of them to come around.

          Edit- scrolled down. Enough idiots to go around surely. Imagine being so fucking dumb you equate the two parties like this. These people are so insanely fucking stupid it hurts the brain.

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        Fuck off with your epstein files. It is terrible what happened to the epstein files and should be released but there are still ton of terrible things happening even worst thsn Epstein

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          The thing is, these files have the power to stop this evil man, and bring down the GOP’s reign of power.

          These are reputable accounts of Trump’s pedophilia, child abuse, child rape, and even an account of being party to infanticide.

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            So we already know that about Trump and now he is doing another terrible thing like mudering civilians and kidnapping people and this suppose tocmake Trump look any better?

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    The US has liberated Venezuela. Israel is liberating Gaza. Russia is liberating Ukraine.

    Imperialism speaks a singular, reality warping, language. Subjects of “democratic” nations have always thought that their state stood for something. The reality is the US has been staging coups to create faux-democratic vassal states since before any of us were born. They even staged a coup in Ukraine before Putin invaded. Can empire and a true vibrant democracy ever be compatible?

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    Locked the Nobel Peace Prize prize for this year in after outclassing the current winner’s work.

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    Maduro and Trump are friends

    Maduro gets to escape his country and save face instead of being assassinated or executed.

    Trump gets to manufacture a conflict so he can start martial law and become a dictator, and to distract from us learning he came inside little girls.

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    Not saying it’s not a hamfisted unjustified action buuuuuut if someone had to be the target of one, Maduro isn’t that bad of a choice 🤷‍♂️