• MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
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    The irony is that boomers have been alive long enough to remember how different the climate used to be. They’ll remark how it never snows as much as it used to, or how there are more storms, fires, droughts, etc. Yet they refuse to see that climate change is what is causing this change.

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      I’m in my 30s and remember the weather being very different in my childhood… winter never had 30 degree differences between yesterday and today like we had this past week. Was nearly 60 degrees one day and then we got 6+ inches of snow the next day.

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      The boomers in my life are starting to come around with it but they believe and combination of

      1. it’s not man made
      2. it won’t be as bad as people say/we can’t know the future
      3. green tech like electric vehicles are too expensive

      The first two are frustrating but don’t really matter if we can engineer our way out of three. My dad got solar panels because they would pay for themselves eventually. I’m not saying we can just green tech our way out of the climate crisis but if green tech gets good enough it will go a LONG way

      These are just anecdotes from interacting with my family. Your mileage may vary

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    Stop it about boomers.

    Some boomers, yes, but also some GenX and millenials.

    In fact, the last election was heavily influenced by millenials shifting to the right.

    But of course, not every milenial

    Dividing based on age is part of the political agenda.

    I don’t think you want to solve the issue. At first blush it seems to me you have an alt account arguing the opposite.

    That’s the only reason I can think for someone starting a post with “boomers”.

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      Stop it about boomers. Some boomers, yes, but also some GenX and millenials.

      Thank you - beat me to saying this. (And Gen Z too)

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        Honestly, I see more ignorant Gen Xers (including my own parents and relatives) who are more ignorant and gullible than Boomers more often than not. They are also the age demographic that voted the most for Trump.

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      You worded that very well. I don’t like people calling out generations like this but struggle on making a well formed reply.

      Also it’s odd that they lack the understanding that one day their generation will be the old one and they will be subject to blame. Unless people just stop doing it!

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        A story as old as time.

        For many adults, children are at the same time “smarter than their parents” and also “more disrespectful than their parents at their age”.

        And children think that the old people “left them without opportunities”

        They’ve been saying that before biblical times.

        The funny thing is that I’ve observed that children who blame adults become the adults who blame children.

        The well adjusted children become well adjusted adults who don’t blame others.

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    Climate change is real and we’re causing it

    “I definitely did not do this and won’t change anything I do.”

    Blue M&Ms cause cancer

    “How could the M&M people do this to me?”

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    Most of the boomers I knew growing up acknowledged climate change.

    They also acknowledged that they didn’t care because they wouldn’t be around long enough to feel the severe effects of it.

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      I’ve never heard anyone say that about climate change, really.

      Those that agree with facts know it’s a thing and really would love to see it go, but what can we do? We’re not politicians, we’re not rich, we’re not powerful.

      We’re separating our plastics and paper and what not, we try to avoid the car, we use public transportation, bicycles… But what are we supposed to do? We cannot fix this, er cannot stop this.

      Just saying “boomers don’t care” is a bullshit statement. In not a boomer, but I know enough of them. Just saying that it’s all the boomers fault is easy enough but it won’t solve anything.

      Start at least blaming politicians and the rich. They’re the ones that got us here, they’re the ones that keep is here

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        I dunno, most boomers I know, including my parents, do not really care much and think it’s just the next generation’s problem and, just like themselves, every generation has their own problems 🤷‍♀️

        I also blame the rich and politicians first and foremost but there is in fact a little blame to go around to all of us too, including me, but also totally boomers too lol

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        Listen, I don’t disagree with you regarding the class divide, but this is my own experience with plenty members of the older generation, including my own parents.

        I’m not saying they all do, nor do I really think it’s a starting point for dealing with the issue either, but that’s what this meme is about. Again, it’s just my own experience and I’m sorry that it seems to upset you.

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      My mother switched from “it’s not real” to “it’s real, but we aren’t causing it”

      There is no winning here

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        No unfortunately it’s the future consequences. We’ve already passed the +2c of global warming two and a half decades earlier than expected. Which was the threshold for significant but not world ending effects if we had hit it in 2050. At our current pace we’re looking at the near worst case scenario by 2050, which only a small percentage of boomers might live to see. Most won’t see most of the effects of climate change.

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      97% was reported by earlier small surveys, but I think the most rigorous and widely reported survey of scientists was Harris Interactive in 2007.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change#2005–2009

      That was followed up in 2010 by a survey of specifically climate scientists, whom hit 97-98%.

      The ‘concensus’ has been constantly challenged in conservative media and circles so there have been many such surveys / meta-analyses continuing over the years and it’s been hitting 100% for the last several years. If any idiot ever parrots “science doesn’t work on concensus” my usually response is something like, “no it doesn’t, but when an entire field of scientists have determined a theory to have vast evidence-based backing its considered settled. The only thing that would change that is significant contradictory data being presented, yet instead every year we’re measuring huge volumes of data that confirm the concensus.”

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      The rest believe it too, but their papers are deliberately written in such a way that journalists can misinterpret them.

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    Common scenario to collect data about gullible people and scam them later - or just to get them to like a certain page and then sell the page with the likes.

    Local supermarket chain is giving away free cars, just like this post and add a comment. Oh, and by the way the page was created two days ago and has 15 likes - must be legit!

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    For being a science meme group, I’m seeing a distinct lack of understanding of how psychology, especially cognitive bias, works.

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      For being a science meme community, it’s a place people can vent about things that they can’t vent about elsewhere. We can understand psychological phenomena, but still be personally frustrated by it.

      Though I do wish this post weren’t targeted toward Boomers. Younger people buy into this type of thing, too.

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    If you or someone you know are experiencing climate change please consult a radical extremist. Symptoms of climate change may include:

    Its hot when its not suppose to be

    Its cold when its not supposed to be

    Its very hot then very cold then very hot…unexpectedly

    Rising sea levels

    Glacial melt

    Oil companies suppressing the media

    Large scale science denial

    Radical extremism is a known treatment for societal decay. Results may very.

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    Blaming all the world’s troubles on old people does jackshit for solving anything. I get it, many of you need a scapegoat and an arbitrary “generation” to blame is socially binding for you. But why “boomers”? When they die off, will you blame Gen X next? Then the millennials as they age; age like ALL people. If you really want to find root cause generations, look into those Nineteenth Century folks and their penchant for wanton industry and slavery. Or Roman Empire people with their imperialist expansion and Christianization… Or just sit on your hands and gripe about grandpa…

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    I don’t know, the %3 of scientists I paid were awfully expensive, I should probably trust them for ROI.