• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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        It’s two different arguments. Individually there are many people who see women having it better then themselves and of course they will be upset when society is saying they don’t. Empathy here is understanding both sides have some valid points. Men do have a lot of problems in society. An entire generation left behind because many social programs focused only on boosting women while forgetting men. Telling those men to suck it up or that they’re wrong isn’t the answer. It’s only going to radicalize sides. Both sides should be addressed.

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              Garbage article confusing classism with sexism. Ultimately DEI only helped a small percentage of women access jobs they would not be considered for in the past. It is called competition, but this guy wants to try and create a narrative that doesn’t exist except in his head.

              Whether it is another male or a well qualified woman it doesn’t change you were not in the right spot at the right time. Blaming a competitive employment space on DEI is just stupid. There are hundreds if not thousands of candidates that all want that job.

              The statistics don’t lie as well ~45 percent low level managers are women. So men still have an advantage, but it gets worse with seniors management only about ~35 percent. Even worse CEO ~10 percent. Doesn’t look like DEI was an advantage after all.

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                    I find you choice to use “victim blaming” in this context very telling.

                    If you read the whole article, you read about hiring offices openly discriminating in an illegal way, and you read that it was so severe, people knew not to even apply to positions because the discrimination is so bad. If you’ve been in college or the job market in the last 10 years, I’m sure you also know this isn’t just made up or an isolated case.

                    So who, in this context, is the “victim”? Who is “blaming” them? Obviously the victims are the people facing real and very extreme hiring discrimination. He’s not blaming the minorities who got hired instead, but I think that’s what you’re assuming here.

                    You seem to believe that “victim” means minority by definition.

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          But isn’t this mentality just flawed in general? Comment sections aren’t representative of society since they tend to attract the loudest, angriest voices. They’re usually not a balanced sample of public opinion. Using them as proof creates a circular argument where hostility toward feminism is treated as both the cause and the evidence of its necessity. It also mistakes correlation for causation and can shut down nuanced discussion by treating all criticism as misogyny.

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            Maybe it doesn’t represent the public opinion, but it still does show that there are plenty of dickheads out there somewhere. And sometimes those dickheads find their way into governments and positions where they turn more people into dickheads.

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              But this could be said about anything. Dickheads exist in literally every group and they participate in all levels of society like everybody else. There are dickhead misogynists and dickhead feminists. The existence of dickheads in of itself doesn’t mean anything.