• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      It’s two different arguments. Individually there are many people who see women having it better then themselves and of course they will be upset when society is saying they don’t. Empathy here is understanding both sides have some valid points. Men do have a lot of problems in society. An entire generation left behind because many social programs focused only on boosting women while forgetting men. Telling those men to suck it up or that they’re wrong isn’t the answer. It’s only going to radicalize sides. Both sides should be addressed.

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            Garbage article confusing classism with sexism. Ultimately DEI only helped a small percentage of women access jobs they would not be considered for in the past. It is called competition, but this guy wants to try and create a narrative that doesn’t exist except in his head.

            Whether it is another male or a well qualified woman it doesn’t change you were not in the right spot at the right time. Blaming a competitive employment space on DEI is just stupid. There are hundreds if not thousands of candidates that all want that job.

            The statistics don’t lie as well ~45 percent low level managers are women. So men still have an advantage, but it gets worse with seniors management only about ~35 percent. Even worse CEO ~10 percent. Doesn’t look like DEI was an advantage after all.

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                  I find you choice to use “victim blaming” in this context very telling.

                  If you read the whole article, you read about hiring offices openly discriminating in an illegal way, and you read that it was so severe, people knew not to even apply to positions because the discrimination is so bad. If you’ve been in college or the job market in the last 10 years, I’m sure you also know this isn’t just made up or an isolated case.

                  So who, in this context, is the “victim”? Who is “blaming” them? Obviously the victims are the people facing real and very extreme hiring discrimination. He’s not blaming the minorities who got hired instead, but I think that’s what you’re assuming here.

                  You seem to believe that “victim” means minority by definition.

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                    You can always tell someone who doesn’t know what they are talking about. First, there was no illegal discrimination. In fact, according to existing policies the Federal Government and all government contractors cannot create quotas or have any preference in hiring. It is straight up illegal.

                    Now we can talk about the private sector. They can hire whoever they fucking want. Chick-fil-A won’t hire or allow openly gay managers/administrators/owners. Likewise some women’s only shelter, who are also private but nonprofit, won’t hire male workers for certain roles. This is completely legal.

                    The victim is minorities and women who are being singled out because DEI dictates and certain companies choose to give them a chance. It is their fault for “stealing” a job away from a white male. Do you understand how bombastically stupid this is?

                    I think you don’t understand the law or DEI just like the author who desperately wants to blame someone else for his inability to prepare his child for the job market.

                    There are tons of jobs and tons of companies ran by man-o-sphere assholes who only hire white males. The number of companies that openly give preference to white males without explicitly saying so dwarf companies willing to give minorities and women a shot.

                    If DEI works so well how come women make up less than 30% of upper management but yet comprise of 47% of the work force. Even worse CEO are only 10% women. Where is this avalanche of control DEI has given women and minorities?

                    It doesn’t exist, In fact DEI barely moved the needle for minorities and is only responsible for a small amount of women placed in roles they were eligible for but looked over. The best criticism is DEI didn’t really work not that our sons can suddenly find no jobs.

                    As a hiring manager who has hired hundreds of people in the private, nonprofit, and government sector I can confidently say the author is full of shit.