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Forgive me because I’m not super familiar but like how would you prove someone is using a VPN? Like isn’t the whole idea that it masks where the user is actually from?
I’m afraid this makes me sound like an idiot but I’m genuinely curious
Outside of specific implementations like Tor’s snowflake protocol, it’s very easy for internet providers to see who’s using a VPN, the only thing it buys you is privacy at the other end (so they’ll know you’re using a VPN, just not know what you’re using the VPN to look at, hence why their panties are in a twist).
Other user answered the question accurately. I just wanted to say that asking doesn’t make you sound like an idiot. VPN companies intentionally market their products with the purpose of making people believe that they are some magic and untraceable secure system.
No I think it’s much worse. They are thinking of adding an app on your device that’ll constantly monitor all media to see if it is CSAM and report to police.
Edit sources- techlore video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzmR4nt1rpE
Proposed bill https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/63901/documents/7465
For LEA - CSAM is the worst thing in the world and I do not support CSAM but this is not the way to combat it.
Jesus…
Do you have a sauce for that?
That seems way too draconian for labour to be able to get away with.
techlore video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzmR4nt1rpE
Proposed bill https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/63901/documents/7465
Yeah that’s what I mean it’s not an actual bill. It’s a proposal and any idiot can ride a proposal.
I thought you were saying that they were actually definitively going to implement this and I don’t think they are. It might even get as far as consideration but I can’t think of a situation where they can actually mandate this without a feasibility study. Which will be fun to look at.
This is just something that the loud mouths are pushing.
Y’all it is not a coincidence that these authoritarian tactics are applied after years of successful resistance against genocide in Palestine. The U.K. is one of the only countries in the world where a Zionist arms supplier, Elbit, was forced to close a facility due to repeated direct action interference in operations. They are terrified that the internet is more resilient to conventional means of propaganda than what other forms of media are; which liberals have already spent a century trying to get under control. Combined with a perceived increased threat to “democracy” by Russian social media disinformation campaigns – which are somehow undesirable yet consistent with capitalistic imperatives – liberals are terrified of the internet’s ability to challenge their rule.
亲爱的英国同志们：
谢谢您对我们长城的支持
Dear Beloved British Comrades:
Thank you for showing support to our Great Wall!
🇨🇳🤝🇬🇧
Dear Americans: You’re next
This would make current work from home tech stacks effectively illegal and would cause massive problems for industries with a lot of money and influence.
I think we may assume corporations would still be allowed to operate VPN. The ban would target commercial services that provide anonymity.
Well then just start a VPN service where everyone is an employee instead of an user. Problem solved.
Loopholes are allowed for corporations and the wealthy.
The rest of us live under a draconian implementation of the law.
I smell a business opportunity.
Firstly it’s not going to happen this is just something someone’s claim to they can make a thread. Zero sources posted.
Secondly I’d like to see you craft a law that allows corporate VPNs but not private VPNs and doesn’t have any loopholes in it.
I’m not saying it could never happen, but literally all this is a handful of MPs and lords making noise about shit they don’t understand.
There’s no plan for this. I don’t think we need to be quite so alarmist in a thread with literally zero sources posted anywhere.
They’re was talk of age verification for buying a VPN, but not of an outright ban.
Not great, but not the end of the world either since credit cards are only available to over 18s anyway. If your VPN accepts anonymous payments then whatever.
🎶 Fascists to the “left”, Fascists to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle again. 🎶
Friendly reminder that despite the flaws this is the best system we have the issue isn’t the system it’s human nature. We (collective) need to grow up.
The older I get the more I wonder if the drive for more power, more money, more control… It’s all just mental illness. We should not be applying laurels to the likes of Musk or Bezos. We should be addressing the underlying mental issue that has made an unhealthy disconnect from humanity.
I’m conflicted on this comment. I vehemently disagree that this is the best possible system we could have. But I also strongly agree with the rest lol.
That “best system” is what produces that mental illness.
The shit in Britain is definitely not “the best system we have”, and I say this having lived a decade there (were I was even involved in Politics for a bit) and also decades elsewhere in Europe hence having observed it first hand.
Britain is “interesting” in how power is controlled there, being at best very much at the low end of democratic, if at all democratic, with things like a head of state with some real power who inherits the post, a second chamber whose members are nominated or inherit their seats, no written Constitution and a First Past The Post voting system, plus the 5 decades of Neoliberalism having de facto made the State as a power secondary (maybe even subservient) to Money.
A performative vote which through Mathematical rigging for most people doesn’t really control how a country is managed and forces them into choosing “small evil” to stop “big evil”, with on top of it the very way the power structures are shaped robbing them of even more power to set the direction of the country, isn’t Democracy.
Totally disagree with that first paragraph. Don’t disagree with the rest.
Labour have completed Blair’s project and become the quintessential centrist libfash party.
All y’all Americans who like Buttegieg or Newsom, this is what you’re trying to get for yourselves.
Newsom sucks, but California doesn’t have laws like this.
Starmer didn’t suck this bad until he got PM either.
True.
A place where entertainment and tech industries hold much of the economic and political power? Oh, it’s coming.
Russians, Iranians and Chinese did a fuckton of work to develop protocols that bypass this kinda shit, you’ll be fine
Banned protesting under the guise of “preventing terrorism” banning VPN and creating sweeping oppressive online surveillance under the guise of “protecting the children”.
Those who would trade their liberty for false promises of safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Kind of wrong. I think even the foolish and politically disempowered deserve liberty and safety.
Maybe its skyrocketed because the misnamed “online safety act” does nothing useful and just gets in the way of people trying to use the internet!
Corporate Office owners overjoyed.
Yeah which is exactly why it’s not happening. You’ll notice there’s no source provided because it’s just some scaremongering tactic that idiots like to post online trying to generate some controversy out of thin air, because they’re bored.
Labour or are quite shit it is to be said, but they’re not suicidally stupid. Which this is.
A lot of government ministers like to just say random shit. It doesn’t mean there’s any sort of policy.
I can’t imagine Starmer really wants to piss off even more the electret right now. The online safety act has been hugely unpopular and the people they expected to cheer them on haven’t done so. Mostly because people with kids also want to access content without having to submit a licence. Also the general consensus that the checks are been performed by the lowest bidder and it’s only a matter of time before there’s a data breach.
there’s no way that could backfire spectacularly
