Now all together: Feeling bad and being sad are things you do not compete at
One man’s trash
Jeez, first the reprisal of the bear comparison with a hilarious amount of dudes feeling still it is a bad comparison because bears are so so much more dangerous, now this, what is going on with Lemmy?
Eh even if you want to bring your own emotional problems into a discussion like this, probably a better way is to go along the lines of “I understand how you feel, I often feel that way too. I find [this method] to be very helpful when dealing with it.” bla bla, rather than turning it into a piss contest (or contunuing it if it started off like that).
Also I feel like this comic tries to speak in place of all men. I might be wrong but if indeed so, I don’t feel like that all the time. Sure I do feel like that sometimes but definitely not even every month. I got my other problems, I am not problem free, but this is not it. So if this man feels like that all the time, he should probably try to have an open hearted discussion about it with someone who can understand rather than get angry about it. And if the other person makes fun of him for that, maybe he should consider his ties with that person because there are definitely people who are more understanding.
So… Why is this one getting reposted?
Misogynistic drivel.
Woman: I’m suffering
Man: I have it worse!
Shut the fuck up and listen. If someone says they’re suffering you pay attention to their problems not make it a contest.
She wasn’t merely saying, “I’m suffering”. The comic starts with, “you don’t understand”. It starts with her dismissing the comiseration attempt.
This highroad is cute and all, but it’s grossly ignorant to reality or the fact that there are no heroes in this comic: It is not one side being dismissed. It is both sides failing to communicate. They are both talking past each other.
You do undermine your own point a bit by trivializing men’s suffering in the same breath as demanding nobody trivialize suffering.
The comic is bullshit for sure but you did exactly the same thing it did.
There is no real life situation where the proper response to a person crying in your presence who claims they have it bad is “I have it worse”
A rich teenager crying about how they’re not getting the brand new car they wanted for their sweet 16.
ah okay you got me, but that does not at all make this comic not mysogynistic. There is none of that context here. I dont care about this dudes opinion
He ignored her suffering and diminished it saying that for 5 days a month she feels what he deals with every day. He’s ignoring her point and one-upping her. That’s toxic behaviour that doesn’t help anything.
That he is also suffering is a separate conversation that also needs to take place but that’s a different conversation. The first step is resolving conflict is by listening to the other person’s point of view, not dismissing it as less important.
They’re both being toxic in the comic, so trying to play it as if either is more correct is being disingenuous and is a massive source of the confusion in this discussion.
Unless they are a man, of course, then they should just get a therapist.
It’s about depression you git. Does he have “all men” tattooed on his fucking forehead? It’s one dude. You sound extremely hypocritical
Men will literally menstruate 24/7 instead of going to therapy
Fake news we also have 40k lore
Dude. No need to call us out like that.
In America therapy costs a lot of money and you get no guarantee you’ll see someone competent.
Very true and I speak from experience. Still worth it to try, if you need help. I did eventually find one that helped me a lot.
So is the answer to give up or keep trying?
The answer is to fight for a healthcare system that covers all health (including mental) instead of trying to be the most effective funnel of money from the poor into the coffers of the rich.
Sadly, the people who are most lacking in mental health support are largely the ones who actively fight against such a structure (because propaganda works).
Tell me how we do that exactly? Just keep voting and hope that some kind of policy goes through and hopefully before you finally blow your brains out?
You seem to think that box #2 is the last hope. I’m not ready to give up on that one yet. But if things get so bad that the ballot box truly doesn’t matter any more, we still have two more to defend liberty with. I hope we never again need the fourth box.
Throwing your hands in the air and saying “it’s too rigged, there’s no hope” is exactly what the opps want.
I am not giving up. But just shrugging and say ‘go see a therapist’ is useless.
yes, because I will be extra sad if I cant afford rent.
You’re not doing anything by saying “go to therapy.” If you really cared, pay for someone’s therapy.
If anyone is mentruating 24/7, I would suggest the hospital.
I feel like if this was a specific character going “wait that’s not normal lol” the joke would land better. But as it is the only frame of reference we have is one representing women and one representing men.
And it just all falls flat because women can have mental illnesses too? And yes men are forced to repress it more often but women often have their physical or mental health dismissed or ignored so it’s not much better either way.
I’m trans so I’ll never face a period but I can’t imagine the agony of going through one in addition to a mental health crisis or other sickness. And it’s not like women get “period days off” of work or school so you’re just expected to push through it.
I’m grateful you will never have to deal with it, it makes me a little jealous. If you ever want to imagine what bad cramps feel like, imagine a power drill plunged into your belly, whirring at full speed. 😭
Lemmy: MISOGYNY!
Meanwhile, me, a dumdum: Damn the author has experienced critically low self-esteem…or the joke is as fun as a rock in the field.
Like, either it’s self-depreciating/edgy humor or it’s not humor at all lol.
I immediately understood it to be a description of severe depression. If a neurotypical person suddenly experiences a low from a period similar to a depressed person’s average day, why is it suddenly misogyny?
this is fuckin dumb
Idk i may be only 14 but im thinkin it’s pretty deep
I love the comments demonstrating exactly how men’s mental health issues are marginalised, ignored and treated with contempt.
BTW, international men’s day is November 19th, and no one gives a shit.
I give a shit. Stop saying no one gives a shit, it’s not true. The media powers put those words together, stop repeating the lie they sell you.
Give a shit
Did you see any posts on international men’s day on Lemmy? Because I didn’t, and I also forgot. No one fucking cares. The only time it gets bought up is on 8 march because of douchebags. And doesn’t even get mentioned on the fucking day it happens , even by people who know about it, because we also forget
Having once been a part of reddits /menslib. I can safely say that if that is the best we can do then its hopeless.
The best you can do is give a shit.
Say it louder than the naysayers.
I GIVE A SHIT ABOUT MEN’S MENTAL HEALTH
TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND YOUR COMMUNITIES
CHECK IN WITH YOUR FELLOW DUDES
BE HONEST AND VULNERABLE EVEN WHEN IT FEELS LIKE YOU SHOULDN’T
BE THE LIGHT WHEN THERE IS ONLY DARKENSS FOR BOTH YOURSELF AND OTHERS
BE RADICAL, BE THE CHANGE, GIVE EXTRA FUCKS, FOR NOT ALL HAVE FUCKS TO GIVE!
I do. But I feel like I have to work against both sides on this issue.
Lots of arguing here who has it worse. Hard to get objective comparisons.
I suppose asking post-op trans people might be the best way to come closest to objective information on the subject. Wonder if the data from transfemmes and transmascs would be significantly different.
Depression from being forced to grow up the opposite gender entirely removes my objectivity on this topic. Cis men don’t experience that same feeling so I can’t comment on what they feel.
I can say I personally feel a lot better as a woman though.
Also, cis women can stop their periods. My roommate has a thing injected in their arm for birth control that also fully stops their periods for (iirc) ~5 years.
Also I saw online that if you skip a dose of pill birth control before your period you can also skip the period, but I don’t have a uterus so I can’t confirm if that’s true loledit: This topic is a lot more complicated than I thought it was. I apologize.
Saying cis women can just stop their periods if they feel like it is a vast over simplification. Birth control fucks with your hormones often in very unpredictable ways. My friend had a light period for like 3 months straight due to her birth control and the doctors said that was fine and normal. In me, birth control triggered treatment resistant suicidal depression that I deal with to this day. In my sister, it gave wild mood swings and general emotional instability. My other sister was just plain allergic to it.
It’s dangerous for women to go on hormonal birth control even though it’s so common and normalized. Women’s Healthcare in the USA is so hit or miss, and doctors are often uninformed or dismissive. Maybe you live elsewhere where it’s better?
Please understand that periods are absolutely not optional. Even a complete hysterectomy (not that many of us could be granted one anyway) would trigger early menopause which is its own host of issues.
I had no idea it was so different for different people. I did not mean to downplay your issues at all, I apologize
I’ve noticed a trend (at least in online spaces I’ve been in) that trans women are much more present and vocal about their experiences than trans men. Do you have any observations on that topic? I wonder if trans women are simply more numerous, or perhaps trans men have more reasons to not be so vocal, e.g., ingrained shyness etc.
I know that on Lemmy specifically the number of trans women is significantly higher than the number of trans men, iirc Tumblr Pinterest and bluesky are places that trans men tend to be more dominant.
There is also a point that there’s not much about men that women don’t already know compared to the VAST amount of things that men don’t know about women.
So when someone switches gender the transfems tend to have a lot more learning and will overshare their experiences to help prevent the struggle for the next transfems that come along.though obviously that’s not to downplay the issues that trans men experience, there’s a lot of things that I thought were obvious that my transmasc friends had no idea about
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Yeah, yeah. What do you think the origin of the word menstruation is?
It’s men + frustration.
booo
